msn games
- Changed type Jeremy_Wu Friday, November 9, 2012 5:22 AM
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Hi,
Would you please let us know more details about the issue.
Such as, what operation did you do? Also, it is appreciated that if you can provide us screenshots about the issue.
However, if the issue is related to Windows Live Messenger, it is recommended to address the issue in Windows Live Messenger forum.
Thanks.
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correct website won't open
I have my daughters school website saved in my favorites. It won't open. It pulls up some crazy website. I tried opening the same site on my laptop and it opens fine. What in the world? I need to be able to open it on my desktop because that is the computer she uses and the one attached to the printer. I have IE8. It was working fine. I have no idea what happened. It's also just this one website, the others open fine.
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Have you tried accessing the site by typing in the URL or searching for the site using a search engine? Perhaps the Favorite URL has been corrupted.
Also, if you continue to have problems you can reset IE8 by going to Tools>>Internet Options>>Advanced Tab>>Click Reset.
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Hi,
Firstly, please check if the URL is correct.
However, if issue still occurs even the URL is correct, please double check your hosts file and open the command prompt and input
ipconfig /flushdns
Hope this helps.
Jeremy Wu
TechNet Community Support
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DSIM upgrade from server 2008 R2 STD to ENT
After performing my upgrade using these steps
http://blogs.technet.com/b/server_core/archive/2009/10/14/upgrading-windows-server-2008-r2-without-media.aspx
I used the generic kms key from MS and my exchange 2010 mailbox role server worked for ten days after changing the key to my MAK VL keys. then after a reboot i couldn't connect to my server via RDC. The option under the remote settings tab was greyed out. I then came across this issue on the web.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverTS/thread/6debc586-0977-4731-b418-ca1edb34fe8b
It seems if i revert back to the generic kms key from MS it works and if i change the key back to my MAK VL key then reboot it stops working. What gives and how can i fix it? Thanks.
- Changed type Tim Quan Monday, January 3, 2011 2:29 AM
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Are you using this KMS key?
489J6-VHDMP-X63PK-3K798-CPX3Y
When you changed to a MAK key, was the system activated successfully?
Can you try another MAK day to test the result?
Tim Quan
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Its a bit late but I have had the same issue and been provided the solution
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- Changed type Wanda Rodriguez Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:56 PM I get confuse.
Non Standard User Profile - Unable to Sign In to Store - App Tiles Do Not Work
Hi Everyone,
Hoping that somebody can shed some light on this issue!
I should explain first that Windows 8 Pro (X64) was installed by way of a clean install utilising audit mode to configure the User Profile folder location to a new partition on a secondary drive (D:\Users). The 'main' user profile (the one with the issue) was then further configured using the profile list keys within registry to place the 'Main' at the root of D: (e.g. "D:\Main") a location used since the release of Windows XP. Individual folders within this profile have been further customized using the 'location' tab (e.g. "D:\Main\Filing Cabinet\Main Documents" etc.) though this is probably not relevant!
Additionally, directory junctions have been created (mklink /j) in respect of D:\Main with D:\Users........and although probably not necessary D:\Main with C:\Users
The situation is now as follows:
1. All user accounts are assigned 'administrator' privileges
2. User profiles created under the D:\ partition (e.g. "D:\Users\Secondary" etc.) function normally with Store sign in and working Modern (Metro) Apps
3. The "D:\Main" profile functions correctly except for Store sign in and functioning Modern (Metro) Apps.
4. Attempts to sign in to the store using an MS account fails with a self retuning sign in loop.
5. Attempts to bypass and download (free) Apps continually fail with the message "Something Happened and this app couldn't be installed").
6. Attempts to use any metro app results in a return loop back to the tile icon from full screen icon version without opening the app.
Can any wiser heads point out what I have overlooked and suggest how to resolve this whilst preserving the cherished user as the "D:" root?
Many thanks in advance,
PC Pilot
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....Just a further thought, might this be a permissions issue???
Awaiting any thoughts with much anticipation
Thanks,
PC Pilot
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Migrating MS Access 2003 Database Applications to SQL Server 2005/VB
Hello all! First time post this one.
My work requires me to look after 5 MS Access 2003 Database applications. These are now legacy applications and we are considering moving these to a SQL Server 2005 backend/VB .NET frontend combination.
Some questions to start off:
1. Apart from a download copy of SQL Server 2005 and a MS Visual Studio License, are there any other tools I might require to do this work?
2. Considering that 80% of forms and reports from MS Access are to be recreated, am I able to go forth boldly with the assumption that all data in tables will successfully be converted to SQL Server 2005 tables using SSMA?
3. Will the VBA coding in MS Access DB Applications need to be rewritten completely, or is there a way to deal with this such as embedding the code, etc?
4. How easily can the SQL queries (union, join, crosstab) in the MS Access DB Applications be converted, or do these need to be recreated?
All feedback on the above is welcome. Thank you.
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Hello,
Take a look at DBForms tool
2. It is able to convert MS Access forms to ASP.NET . Table structure and data will be transferred to SQL server.
3. It doesn't support VBA code migration :(
4. SQL queries will be converted to MS SQL views.
- Edited by DMSoft Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:31 PM
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Windows 7 cannot access DVD drive except Admin
- Changed type Niki Han Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:59 AM
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This question would be more "comfortable" in Group Policy forum. Please give our colleagues more information on your GPO settings. Make sure that there is no removable devices security software like DeviceLock etc.
Rgds
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localhost win 7 64 bit not working
No idea if in the right forum section, so if, not sorry.
I am needing to instal xampp on my PC for web development. So far everything I have tried has done nothing to help. What happens is that the page just says "waiting for response from Localhost" and never loads.
IIS, Skype and any other program that might interfere is off (well what I know of at least). Also tested EasyPHP and WampServer incase it was the software but with same results. I even tried changing the hosts file as recomended in some forum sections with no change.
I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit with IE9.
So can anyone shed some light on this and help me?? Is this a win7 problem? Realy do not care as long as I can get it sorted.
Thanks to anyone that can help.
- Changed type Kim Zhou Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:34 AM
- Edited by Garth Mr20 Monday, November 26, 2012 10:17 PM removed strange link
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Did you turn off firewall?
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First Question Asked.......HELP!!!!! Cant Update, reverting changes
Hello to the lovely helpful people ...who know a lot!
I have a nearly new Lenovo 64 bit windows 7 laptop. I have not been able to succesfully update...well it updates but then when it tries to configure it cant and comes up as reverting changes. Can anyone help me?????
Many thanks Amanda
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Hi,
This should fix Windows update service: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/windows_update/
This will fix Windows Update corrupted DLLs: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821
If first link will not help, would you upload and provide a link to download a c:\windows\windowsupdate.log file?
- Edited by MStoppl Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:56 PM
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FIM-Troubleshooting: Enabling Verbose Logging for the Lotus Notes Management Agent:
FIM-Troubleshooting: Enabling Verbose Logging for the Lotus Notes Management Agent: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/14316.troubleshooting-enabling-verbose-logging-for-the-lotus-notes-management-agent.aspx
Tim Macaulay Security Identity Support Team Support Escalation Engineer
Windows Backup Error 0x80080005
- Changed type SriramB[MSFT]Microsoft employee Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:51 AM customer did not respond
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Please share the following details for further diagnostic
1. Try the WBADMIN CLI command for the block level backup service from and administrative command prompt, and share the output. For e.g.
wbadmin get versions
wbadmin start backup -allcritical -backuptarget <Target>
2. Please share the logs present in %SystemDrive%\windows\Logs\WindowsServerBackup and the application event logs.
You can send the details to chgupta-at-microsoft-dot-com.
Thanks, Chirag G [MSFT] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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For others searching this issue...
What I discovered on my system using process monitor (http://live.sysinternals.com/procmon.exe) was that wbengine.exe was trying to create c:\system volume information\windowsimageback (and windowsbackup) but was encountering an ACCESS DENIED and NAME COLLISION (the error reported by SCM is closer to that of the name colision).
To resolve the issue I deleted the WindowsBackup and WindowsImageBackup folders from c:\system volume information. This folder by default only has a SYSTEM ACL so to gain access to it and delete the folder you need to take ownership of the folder and add your account with full control. You should revert this aftewards.
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Meadea1,
This also happened to me a few days ago. Fresh OS and starting Windows 7 Backup : result, "Server Execution failed" and error code (0x80080005). I'm running a home build PC with Windows 7 Pro x64. The OS is a "clean" install versus an upgrade install. When I try to "Set up backup" under "Backup and Restore" I get the above result/error window. This is the first time I tried to use Windows 7 Backup. Trying to run wbadmin from the command line gets the same error statement without the numeric code.
Online I found this,
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I had the Exact same issue on One of My Friends Computers in New Jersey
I Fixed the issue by giving Full permission to the system volume information Folder for the user.
Any Help Mail me @ kalidas.rm@live.com
Monday, January 31, 2011 2:44 AM
Richard Phi
This also worked for me.
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Source link:
< http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsbackup/thread/29bd3fc9-9538-4d82-9b13-96263c4f2f73/ >
After an email exchange with kalidas.rm@live.com, I went charging into ownership of files and folders. Despite using various permissions, the result was still the same. Backup setup would not run.
Then, this AM, I found this,
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Perplexer March 13, 2010 at 16:42:14 Pacific
I've wasted a lot of time on Windows 7 file sharing and I've come up to the conclusion that it is acting weird, perhaps buggy. I could write an essay on the topic but I'll try to be short in this reply.
A padlock on the folder icon means that the folder is not shared with anyone. It appears when you go to folder properties, Sharing tab, and then click on "Sharing..." button and then remove a user from there (which you probably added earlier). Then even if you click the button below named "Advanced Sharing..." and disable sharing completely, the padlock icon will stay. That is because when you removed the user from the "Share..." window, a group called "Authenticated Users" was removed from the Security tab. If you re-add it manually and set it to have all permissions except "Full control" and "Special permissions" then the padlock will disappear and things will be back to normal.
Windows 7 sharing also does not copy users added under "Sharing..." button to the "Advanced Sharing..." button and vice versa, as it does in Vista. If you remove a user from "Sharing..." button (and with that lose the "Authenticated Users" under Security tab) then the "Advanced Sharing..." button and everything related to that will not work at all.
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Source link: http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-7/windows-7-folder-padlock-icon-what-is-it/1243.html
With "Perplexar's" info in mind I gave the permissions "shuffle" another try, along with the permissions discussions in the technet link above and Kalidisan's advice, this gave me access to the three folders (system volume information, windows backup and windows information backup). To gain access I gave objects: "system", "authenticated users", "administrator" and "administrators" permissions in the 3 folders. In a couple folders I had to add one or more of the four objects and set permissions. I sensed progress when the padlock folder icons gave way to normal folder icons. I did not delete any files, just made sure the folders listed above were clear of the padlock folder icon.
Now Backup Setup ran A-OK, and I'm back on track with setting up my recently built computer running Win 7 Pro 64. My build has one SSD for the OS, one enterprise HDD partitioned for programs and users, and one "green" HDD partitioned and ready for system and data backups. When the install was still fresh I did change ownership and did edit permissions to circumvent "trustedinstaller" on some system folders. In doing the "end run" on trusted installer, I may have created the conditions that prevented wbadmin from running "backup setup".
Pete
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Why should we have to do any of this? Backup is a basic function of any operating system. We shouldn't get this kind of problem, especially on a new install as I have. The OS should protect it from any interference. When we set up administrator accounts, they should all work properly and immediately, no matter what names we give them. According to some of the dates on posts here and in the Microsoft Community, this problem has been around for three years, and MS still hasn't created an update to fix it. Is there a good excuse for that?
This makes me feel like I'm back with Windows 95. Windows 2000 Pro has been stable on my other PC for some time now. The only problem I have with it is that it is no longer supported. So remind me, why is this a better OS? Somehow, I'm getting nostalgic for DOS. And the search function for these types of forums does not even find the most recent fix. Sometimes not even the right OS, i.e., XP instead of Win 7.
Microsoft can do better.
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Not using Hardware VSS provider order
I used the method described in the article, "http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/backup-recovery/q-how-can-i-force-a-server-to-use-the-microsoft-volume-shadow-copy-service-vss-provider-" to use Microsoft software VSS provider on Windows Server 2012, but it didn't work. Rebooted the server after making Registry changes too. Has anyone tried and seen it working? Would appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
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I have not seen it work, but typically I would rely on an article written for that operating system, since it was written in 2010 goodness knows if he is using 2008 / 2008R2 or what!
I hope this helps!
"solutions are not always answers" - Richard M. Nixon
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Thanks for your reply ChadChadChad,
I think you are right. May be there is a new method for 2012.
I tried to use same method to a 2008 R2 server running NetApp's Hardware provider and was not able to force backup to use Microsoft's software shadow copy provider. The method is documented by Symantec and wondering if is vendor specific.
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I'd try to use command "Wbadmin start backup -backupTarget:\\[Shared_Computer\dir\]\[Share name] -include:C: -vssFull -quiet" and see if it writes.
"solutions are not always answers" - Richard M. Nixon
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Surface Reviews are in - "clumsy", "sludge-like", "jerky". Apps "bog down".
The reviews are in...
You'll feel clumsy. You'll write slowly. I tried writing this review on the Surface, but I would've missed my deadline by a week. You'll get better—it will probably take weeks to hit a stride—but this thing was supposed to be a breakthrough. A perfect interface. Instead, it's just a half-broken death march up the learning curve. The trackpad, sludge-like and jerky, is even worse—particularly galling compared to the super-smooth touchscreen—and unlike the keyboard, will never get better with practice.
http://gizmodo.com/5953866/microsoft-surface-rt-review-this-is-technological-heartbreak
When I was just dealing with the core OS, the Surface felt like a lively, sophisticated, fast-moving new system, but the deeper I got into apps and the more apps I opened, the more the device seemed to bog down. There were other issues too: video playback in the browser was a spotty experience. Flash content didn't fare too well in either the desktop or new browser, and some HTML5 playback stuttered and dropped frames during play.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3540550/microsoft-surface-review
In time, maybe the Windows RT apps will come. Maybe the snags will get fixed. Maybe people will solve the superimposed puzzle of Windows RT and Windows 8. Until then, the Surface is a brilliantly conceived machine whose hardware will take your breath away — but whose software will take away your patience.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/technology/personaltech/microsoft-unveils-the-surface-its-first-tablet-review.html?_r=0
Is this really how Microsoft is going to launch into the tablet arena, compete against their own OEM partners, and usher in their new OS?
- Changed type David Wolters Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:04 PM Not a question
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Just like any news. Take it with a grain of salt. I like Windows 8 and would love to try it on a tablet. As far as the Surface goes I'll try it and decide for myself.
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Just like any news. Take it with a grain of salt. I like Windows 8 and would love to try it on a tablet. As far as the Surface goes I'll try it and decide for myself.
I don't think we can take this "with a grain of salt". These were actual hands-on pro-Microsoft reviewers whom had in their possession the final shipping version of the product provided directly to them by Microsoft themselves for at least a week now. Sam Biddle is one of the most respected and pro-Microsoft columnists in the world...and when he says you absolutely should not buy it...that's quite the statement. He comes right out in the review and says, "I pity Microsoft's retail staff". Ouch! That's just damning.
- Edited by SAS71 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:48 PM
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Just like any news. Take it with a grain of salt. I like Windows 8 and would love to try it on a tablet. As far as the Surface goes I'll try it and decide for myself.
First of all, let me make clear that I strongly dislike Windows 8. I will not buy any device running it. But, independent of this, do not buy the Surface to run Win8 on a tablet. But, the current Surface does not run Windows 8. It runs Windows RT and this is not the same thing. So, if you want to run Windows 8, you need to wait for the Pro version that would be coming in Q1 2013. This one is guaranteed to be more expensive than the current Surface.
At the end, I really do not get it. If one wants something with a keyboard, there are excellent ultrabooks in the same price range. I am sure that many of them would be coming with Win8 (if one wants this). I really do not know why one would like to torture him/herself trying to "create" anything on a 10'' inch screen with a flimsy keyboard. If anybody can explain this to me in any clear way, I am all ears!!!
If one wants a media consumption device, I cannot see how anybody can beat a Nexus 7...really!!
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Thanks ADRz... Sorry I wasn't clear. I do understand the difference in the two. RT is as close as I can get right now on the Surface. With that aside I'm still going to try them out myself and make my own choice.
On the topic of you not liking it and not understanding why others would, I'm on the other end. Maybe I'm easy to please, but I like all the form factors. To each his own.
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@ADRz,
Good point. Yes, these articles are all referring to Surface with the Windows RT version (since Windows 8 on the surface won't be available until next year).
"The new Microsoft Surface with Windows RT is a disaster, and I predict Windows RT won't last two years....Once again: This doesn't doom Windows tablets. It dooms Windows RT tablets.Windows 8 has an automatic user base (and thus an automatic market for apps) in the hundreds of millions of PCs that can upgrade to the platform. That isn't the case with RT. The fact that I have to say this over and over again, that "Windows" and "Windows RT" are the same thing but not, is going to sow a massive amount of confusion among consumers over the next few years."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411340,00.asp
- Edited by SAS71 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:21 PM
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Once again, it's pretty obvious that Surface tablets are not expected to be used as regular laptops.
From what I can see and read, they seem to be designed for visual activities (browsing the web, reading documents, taking a look at spreadsheets,
checking your emails) plus some casual interactivity like chatting or writing a short memo or email.
I definitely wouldn't choose that device to write a 300 pages whitepaper, to design a 200x200 financial calculator spreadsheet, to type a 20 pages essay
to draw an Autocad blueprint of the Eiffel Tower; though I wouldn't complain to use it to read newspapers, organize my holidays pictures, review
technical PDFs, play a movie or watch Youtube videos, not at all.
IMHO, OS naming choice is THE issue, keeping the same OS name for both Windows 8 x86/x64 and Windows 8 ARM was a big mistake.
Many will buy a Surface thinking they're gonna receive a slimmer / upgraded Windows 7 netbook, which is clearly not the case.
We'll have more concrete information in a couple of months (after MS marketing sales numbers are released).
Sebastian Sajaroff Senior DBA Pharmacies Jean Coutu
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For a professional review, see: Hands on with Microsoft's Surface RT – by Ed Bott
Carey Frisch
For another professional review from the same site, see: Windows RT Surface: Microsoft's greatest hardware fiasco ever? - by Steve J. Vaughan-Nichols
- Edited by SAS71 Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:38 AM
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@ADRz,
Good point. Yes, these articles are all referring to Surface with the Windows RT version (since Windows 8 on the surface won't be available until next year).
"The new Microsoft Surface with Windows RT is a disaster, and I predict Windows RT won't last two years....Once again: This doesn't doom Windows tablets. It dooms Windows RT tablets.Windows 8 has an automatic user base (and thus an automatic market for apps) in the hundreds of millions of PCs that can upgrade to the platform. That isn't the case with RT. The fact that I have to say this over and over again, that "Windows" and "Windows RT" are the same thing but not, is going to sow a massive amount of confusion among consumers over the next few years."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411340,00.asp
I really do not get this. The whole idea for Windows 8 is to bring forward Windows RT. Windows RT is Microsoft's vision for Windows going forward. It is Microsoft's mobile OS expected to compete against iOS and Android (although I think that this boat has sailed some time ago). Microsoft is willing to upset its user base to push WinRT (the runtime foundation of Windows RT). If Windows RT does not survive, what happens to Windows 8????
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I bet you and Steve J. Vaughan-Nichols still use a rotary dial telephone, right?No, my main phone is a Samsung Galaxy SIII. Not that this matters. Under the new, idiotic ideas, I place the emphasis on idiotic, not new. Is this clear???
Carey Frisch
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For a professional review, see: Hands on with Microsoft's Surface RT – by Ed Bott
Carey Frisch
For another professional review from the same site, see: Windows RT Surface: Microsoft's greatest hardware fiasco ever? - by Steve J. Vaughan-Nichols
At the risk of being called a Microsoft fanboy, I'd say that Vaughan-Nichols' fondness for things Microsoft is similar to Noam Chomsky's love of the activities of the Pentagon. He's not the blogger I'd turn to for advice on MS products. Maybe he's sound on Open Source, but the stuff of his that I've read has been anti-Microsoft more than pro-Linux.
That said, I have no plans to ever acquire an RT device.
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I read both reviews and the main distinction is that Ed Bott actually used a Surface for a week prior to writing his review. SJVN did not, and as a result got a few basic facts wrong: like claiming there was no RT SkyDrive app (there is). He also linked to an incorrect article claiming Office RT can't be used by businesses. Go visit the office rt site and read:
>>"However, organizations who purchase commercial use rights or have a commercial license to Office 2013 suites can use Office Home & Student 2013 RT for commercial, nonprofit, or revenue-generating activities."
Another major gaffe he makes is failing to understand that Surface RT is for _home use_ not office use. That's why it doesn't support AD; that's why there is no Outlook. It's meant for home use as a consumer device, not a laptop replacement.
I know these basic facts because I spent about 25 minutes reading about Surface RT today. SJVN clearly didn't even spend that in researching his blog post, so I can't say it's fair to call his post a "review" in the same vein as Ed's.
Hey - I agree that maybe RT won't attract consumers & everyone will end up just getting Surface Pro or some other touch-enabled laptop. But frankly his arguments are poorly thought-out repetition of "I don't think this will work". I recognize that it's much easier to write that sort of thing than it is to actually review the device and provide thoughtful, constructive criticism.
Incidentally, David Pogue's review in the NYT was outstanding. Based on all the proper reviews out there, I am excited about RT as a home device. I think this just might work :)
-Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
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Nah, no contradiction. All I'm saying MS is aiming at consumers with RT, a point that SJVN misses. At the same time I acknowledge maybe the consumer play won't work - maybe consumers won't like it. But he never really gave any good, concrete reasons himself.
It's just too early to tell, and waaaaaaaay too early to call it a fiasco.
Regards,
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
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Nah, no contradiction. All I'm saying MS is aiming at consumers with RT, a point that SJVN misses. At the same time I acknowledge maybe the consumer play won't work - maybe consumers won't like it. But he never really gave any good, concrete reasons himself.
It's just too early to tell, and waaaaaaaay too early to call it a fiasco.
Regards,
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
I agree that it may be too early to call it a fiasco, as we do not have the full numbers here. However, the biggest problem would be consumers who are confused to buy it and then they find out that it runs very little of the software they wanted to run. Microsoft should not have called this OS "Windows" anything. First of all, it is a bad misnomer as it does not even do windows!!! Maybe they should have called XOS or whatever ....but calling it Windows is first of all inaccurate and then confusing. If consumers start getting pissed off, then Microsoft would have a fiasco in its hands.
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All I can say is that I have no idea what kind of specimen the reviewer was using, but my wife and I are absolutely in love with our Surfaces.
She has now no need of a laptop at all, as her work required her to use a mail client, word, powerpoint and excel. not as a power user, but as an executive. Did a Skype call to our son in Thailand, I've watched skynews live, done loads of mail and the keyboard is fantastic. the trackpad is great too, absolutely NO jerkiness at all! I bought the Type keyboard for my wife and she does prefer it as its familiar, but if you can type on the screen then you will find the touch keyboard is fine...has Charm keys too.
Frankly I'm delighted with it. It has definitely exceeded my expectations. And it does do windows, both in Modern style and desktop style. And as for there being very little software, in fact, something like 48 of the top 50 App Store apps are also available in the Store. With that and Office and virtually anything that runs in browser, this knocking is simply wrong.
All IMVHO of course! I have been using Win 8 for a year personally on Build Slate.
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All I can say is that I have no idea what kind of specimen the reviewer was using, but my wife and I are absolutely in love with our Surfaces.
She has now no need of a laptop at all, as her work required her to use a mail client, word, powerpoint and excel. not as a power user, but as an executive. Did a Skype call to our son in Thailand, I've watched skynews live, done loads of mail and the keyboard is fantastic. the trackpad is great too, absolutely NO jerkiness at all! I bought the Type keyboard for my wife and she does prefer it as its familiar, but if you can type on the screen then you will find the touch keyboard is fine...has Charm keys too.
Frankly I'm delighted with it. It has definitely exceeded my expectations. And it does do windows, both in Modern style and desktop style. And as for there being very little software, in fact, something like 48 of the top 50 App Store apps are also available in the Store. With that and Office and virtually anything that runs in browser, this knocking is simply wrong.
All IMVHO of course! I have been using Win 8 for a year personally on Build Slate.
Of course, there are good fits for every machine out there. I am glad that you like your Surface.
I am sure that you are fully aware that there are excellent office productivity suites for both IOS and Android that work very well with MS Office file standards. And, of course, all of those do have Skype clients. Thus, a reviewer has to really compare the capabilities of a new offering to that of existing platforms. At this time, the ecosystem of the Surface (Windows RT) is extremely limited compared to that of the other platforms.
Actually, you are mistaken on one issue. The current Surface (Windows RT) does not support Windows desktop applications. It has "hardwired" access to Word, Powerpoint, Excell and OneNote 2013 but you cannot install or run any other Windows desktop application. It also does not run all Metro apps. If you want support for Windows desktop applications, you would need to get the Surface Pro which would be available next year.
My own preference would be an Ultrabook which is far more capable and far more powerful than any Surface (with lots more storage). On top of all the enhance capabilities, one can hold an Ultrabook at one's lap!!! There are Ultrabooks at the Surface price point.
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And it does do windows, both in Modern style and desktop style.
Um, no. Windows RT does not "do windows" desktop style. You cannot run any desktop applications aside from the included Office (which is missing Outlook). You also can't run all the "Modern style" apps from the store either.
Hopefully you knew that, otherwise - you and your wife are in for an unpleasant surprise.
- Edited by ABCFED Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:31 PM
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Hi,
I've been using the surface now since last Friday. Believe it or not - it absolutely does have a windows desktop environment - with a task bar, system tray, clock, desktop, windows explorer, cmd prompt, term services client, task manager, perfmon, resource manager, mmc etc. So it is absolutely Windows in a desktop-like environment.
That being said, you are correct that it only runs other apps compiled for RT. But the OP was talking about Windows the operating system, not other apps.
My view: nobody I've talked to is actually confused in the least about this. Yes, some user-hating techie types (including some reviewers) can't believe that real people will be able to understand this runs a tablet OS, like an IPad. But shockingly, the average consumer who is willing to pay $500+ for a tablet does actually do some real research before they storm out and buy these things. Call me naïve but I think 99% of the people who _actually buy_ one will be sure they know what they are getting into. I haven't read ONE review from someone who bought Surface and was horrified to find out their special FoxPro app wouldn't install etc.
Myself: I have loved having the desktop Windows features (like taskmanager, windows explorer etc) as a part of the tablet. I don't feel so lost when I want to know where a file is or how much network traffic I'm generating / CPU performance etc. I am really glad that stuff has been kept in there.
I don't want any traditional 3rd party software on my tablet, either. I want everything through the app store. No pre-bundled bloatware, spyware, none of that crap. Good riddance to that whole model. I hope all windows platforms go this route, but I won't digress into my bizarro dystopian future world of computing any further than I already have.
The one thing I really wish I had with RT is full support for flash. That's honestly the only single frustration that I've had thus far. And that's not unique to the Surface, as you all know. But the "partial" flash support is better than you get from an IPad.
Regards,
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
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Hi,
I've been using the surface now since last Friday. Believe it or not - it absolutely does have a windows desktop environment - with a task bar, system tray, clock, desktop, windows explorer, cmd prompt, term services client, task manager, perfmon, resource manager, mmc etc. So it is absolutely Windows in a desktop-like environment.
That being said, you are correct that it only runs other apps compiled for RT. But the OP was talking about Windows the operating system, not other apps.
My view: nobody I've talked to is actually confused in the least about this. Yes, some user-hating techie types (including some reviewers) can't believe that real people will be able to understand this runs a tablet OS, like an IPad. But shockingly, the average consumer who is willing to pay $500+ for a tablet does actually do some real research before they storm out and buy these things. Call me naïve but I think 99% of the people who _actually buy_ one will be sure they know what they are getting into. I haven't read ONE review from someone who bought Surface and was horrified to find out their special FoxPro app wouldn't install etc.
Myself: I have loved having the desktop Windows features (like taskmanager, windows explorer etc) as a part of the tablet. I don't feel so lost when I want to know where a file is or how much network traffic I'm generating / CPU performance etc. I am really glad that stuff has been kept in there.
I don't want any traditional 3rd party software on my tablet, either. I want everything through the app store. No pre-bundled bloatware, spyware, none of that crap. Good riddance to that whole model. I hope all windows platforms go this route, but I won't digress into my bizarro dystopian future world of computing any further than I already have.
The one thing I really wish I had with RT is full support for flash. That's honestly the only single frustration that I've had thus far. And that's not unique to the Surface, as you all know. But the "partial" flash support is better than you get from an IPad.
Regards,
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
Well, I guess with enough marketing dollars, you can convince people that existing in locked ecosystems is actually good. You can also convince them that running smartphone apps is something that they need to aspire to. All is possible on earth.
I am a strong believer in choice. If one wants to buy all their applications from the Microsoft Marketplace, they should have this choice. This also means that those who do not want to do so, they should have the opportunity to purchase applications from wherever they can find them. Why are you a supporter for Microsoft locking down the system??? Do you like living in prisons? Is this a pure expression of the Stocholm syndrome??? If configurability and freedom to load whatever you wish is no longer associated with the Microsoft ecosystem, why shouldn't all of us move to the Mac en mass????
Of course you need to defend your purchase. Everybody does so instinctively. But it is a whole another thing to now evangelize for a totally closed Windows environment!!!!
Yes, you digressed into a total dystopia.
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Hi,
WinRT is the first attempt to run in ARM hardware. So that's why x86 and x64 binaries wont run there, they need to be ported. Not all apps will be able to port to ARM, but allowing some time you will find a lot of them ported. Metro apps, aim to be crossplatform and run in Win 8 and RT, but there's a long way to go. Anyway, that has nothing to do with the marketplace, that's a different story, that was not successful in the past, until Apple did it right. Now everyone, incuding google, wants to take a piece of all the software selled for their devices. That is not nice, but you can't blame Microsoft for it. They are doing what everybody else does. Maybe, it will become ilegal at some point, as to force developers to pay 30% of revenues of any software developed, but for the mean time, we will need to live with it. Oh I forgot, it is supposed that the store is there to ensure that the apps comply for some rules, but they really just want a piece of all the selled software. And that's why you wont be able to buy from "open markets" or other "stores". In Windows we were used to have the freedom to install anything from anywhere, and that is coming to an end, unfortunately.
As for the name Windows RT, it's not as bad as "surface", that was used for other Microsoft product!. As for me, I prefer a notebook, it is more powerful and cheap, but that's me.
Regards,
MarianoC.
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haha. I agree that not all platforms should be locked down quite as tightly as RT is. As I'm sure you know, marketing dollars and Stockholm syndrome have nothing to do with it: I wasn't totally serious when I advocated for a bizarro dystopian world of computing. If I were, I probably would have picked a different way to describe it.
Look: I don't have to defend my purchase. I bought this, rather than an ultrabook or anything else, because I knew exactly what I was getting into. It's a tablet that I need for Office, Internet, and entertainment. period. I can take it with me to do my job & have some fun. To me - it's the best on the market that satisfies those requirements so I bought it. In this case, it was me choosing a small, lightweight, well-designed tablet that only does the few things I need it for. And as a strong believer in choice, I think you'll understand that there is a huge market for people that want the choice to have a slimmed-down device that only does a few things, but does them well.
People do want choice - but they also want simplicity. RT favors simplicity over choice and there's nothing wrong with that.
Simplicity is what is selling & apple is doing that well. One can't be so misanthropic as to believe that every person that owns an ipad or ipod has been brainwashed by apple. yeah, a tiny bit they have, but if the products were total crap and didn't satisfy user's requirements to a large degree, no one would buy them. That's how choice works.
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
- Edited by mmcgille Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:22 PM
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Hi,
Anyway, that has nothing to do with the marketplace, that's a different story, that was not successful in the past, until Apple did it right. Now everyone, incuding google, wants to take a piece of all the software selled for their devices. That is not nice, but you can't blame Microsoft for it. They are doing what everybody else does. Maybe, it will become ilegal at some point, as to force developers to pay 30% of revenues of any software developed, but for the mean time, we will need to live with it. Oh I forgot, it is supposed that the store is there to ensure that the apps comply for some rules, but they really just want a piece of all the selled software. And that's why you wont be able to buy from "open markets" or other "stores". In Windows we were used to have the freedom to install anything from anywhere, and that is coming to an end, unfortunately.
As for me, I prefer a notebook, it is more powerful and cheap, but that's me.
Regards,
MarianoC.
MarianoC, I agree. However, if these "stores" succeed, then it would be the fault of the users. It is really up to us to vote with our dollars to support them or not.
You are wrong about Google. Sure, Google supports Google Play, but one can side-load whatever applications one wants in Android; in addition, there are many competing stores such as Amazon's, B&N, Samsung and others. One is not locked onto a single store. For example, although Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) does not support Flash, one can actually install flash in that operating system!!! No such freedom with Apple or Microsoft platforms.
I agree that there is something perverse about these stores in which a platform is specifically designed to be locked to the store and the store then can blackmail developers for a 30% cut in revenue (not even in profit).
I also think that the whole concept of the "Surface", where one is supposed to do "productivity work" in a 10'' inch screen, is totally weird....but this is just me!!!
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haha. I agree that not all platforms should be locked down quite as tightly as RT is. As I'm sure you know, marketing dollars and Stockholm syndrome have nothing to do with it: I wasn't totally serious when I advocated for a bizarro dystopian world of computing. If I were, I probably would have picked a different way to describe it.
Look: I don't have to defend my purchase. I bought this, rather than an ultrabook or anything else, because I knew exactly what I was getting into. It's a tablet that I need for Office, Internet, and entertainment. period. I can take it with me to do my job & have some fun. To me - it's the best on the market that satisfies those requirements so I bought it. In this case, it was me choosing a small, lightweight, well-designed tablet that only does the few things I need it for. And as a strong believer in choice, I think you'll understand that there is a huge market for people that want the choice to have a slimmed-down device that only does a few things, but does them well.
People do want choice - but they also want simplicity. RT favors simplicity over choice and there's nothing wrong with that.
Simplicity is what is selling & apple is doing that well. One can't be so misanthropic as to believe that every person that owns an ipad or ipod has been brainwashed by apple. yeah, a tiny bit they have, but if the products were total crap and didn't satisfy user's requirements to a large degree, no one would buy them. That's how choice works.
Matt
Matt McGillen, PointBridge - https://blogs.pointbridge.com/Blogs/mcgillen_matt/default.aspx
Sorry Matt, I still do not get it. You can have all of what you described in an iPad or an Android tablet (Office, internet and entertainment) and much, much more!!! In fact, through Onlive Desktop, you can have the desktop Office in your tablet. Of course, we do not have to mention that in these platforms, you would have had access to 700,000 apps and far better hardware. Both the iPad 4 and the Nexus 10 are far superior in hardware than the Surface (of course, the superiority in the ecosystem is so enormous, as to be a given). In fact, the Surface is definitely a low resolution device when compared to either the iPad4 or the Nexus 10. Honestly, I do not understand the rationale.
Personally, I favor smaller tablets for the things tablets are good for (such as the Nexus 7) and a notebook for productivity (although nothing can beat my desktop for sheer power). And all my machines will stay defiantly with Win7 Ultimate, until something better comes along (Linux 3.3 with a VWware Fusion 5-like add on??).
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Hi,
The stores will succeed. Also, it's partially true that google allows everything. On branded devices "the carrier" can lock the store and many other things. You will need to root the device to break them. And, almost all stores charge 30% to developers, as everyone want's a piece of the business. And google let's you distribute your App anyway you want but, it warns you that it will look as an App "from an unknown source" and that some networks won't allow apps "from unknown sources". Anyway, let me make some points clear. I don't like low quality chinese tablets. I don't like expensive ones like apple. I don't care if they are "open", as the hardware is so limited that it's useless for me. I like that Micorsoft offers a good alternative. And I hope this alternative will be a better Price/quality relation. Why not let people decide what is best for them?
Also, what is what you want? You like surface tablets and want them more "open"? Or you simply think they are horrible?
I don't like google and I don't like Facebook, and I simply ignore them all I can and don't use their products. May be I'll buy a surface Tablet for my kids. That's the beauty of freedom!
Regards,
MarianoC
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Hi,
The stores will succeed. Also, it's partially true that google allows everything. On branded devices "the carrier" can lock the store and many other things. You will need to root the device to break them. And, almost all stores charge 30% to developers, as everyone want's a piece of the business. And google let's you distribute your App anyway you want but, it warns you that it will look as an App "from an unknown source" and that some networks won't allow apps "from unknown sources". Anyway, let me make some points clear. I don't like low quality chinese tablets. I don't like expensive ones like apple. I don't care if they are "open", as the hardware is so limited that it's useless for me. I like that Micorsoft offers a good alternative. And I hope this alternative will be a better Price/quality relation. Why not let people decide what is best for them?
Also, what is what you want? You like surface tablets and want them more "open"? Or you simply think they are horrible?
I don't like google and I don't like Facebook, and I simply ignore them all I can and don't use their products. May be I'll buy a surface Tablet for my kids. That's the beauty of freedom!
Regards,
MarianoC
MarianoC, this was funny. Of course, you do know that all tablets are manufactured by Asian companies, don't you???? What are the "low quality" tablets that you are referring to?? In fact, the Nexus tablets (both Nexus 7 and Nexus 10) are excellent. One is manufactured here in the US from Asus parts and the other is made by Samsung (which hardly produces cheap tablets, right??/).
Actually, in Android it is a setting of the OS to allow installation of non-marketplace programs. Furthermore, I have full access to the Amazon and Samsung stores.
The fact that you do not like Google (why?) has nothing to do that Android is a far better mobile OS than Windows RT (in Surface RT). In fact, if you wish, you can populate the whole of the UI in Android with "self-updating" "tiles" (they are called widgets in Android) and they are far more visually pleasing than anything in Metro. Considering the ecosystem of Google, Amazon and B&N offerings (within the Android environment), going with a Surface RT right now is only an exercise in Microsoft fanboyism!!! Maybe in a couple of years, Surface RT (and Windows RT) would have matured enough to be serious competitors, but considering pricing, apps and ecosystem, buying an Surface RT is like throwing money away.
In any case, Microsoft does not have great ambitions for the Surface RT. From what I understand, it would be happy to sell about 3 million units through next summer. It is a modest number, and it may just get it (considering that it will get one for all its employees!!).
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Well, for cheap chinese tablets I mean the ones that sell under $40 us dollars. They run Android. For me a Tablet is for entertainment not work, so I would consider expensive anyone that is priced above a mid-power notebook today (I7, 8GB ram 500gb hd decent graphics AMD-Nvidia). I don't mean that all chinese tablets are awful, but the cheap ones do, but hey, they are less that $40. My notebook is an Asus, and I like it. One of my kids has an IPod 4 64Gb, I've used it and works fine, it seems expensive to me, but not for him. The other one has an IPad II, the same thing, it works, he payed more for it than my notebook (my asus is 16GB ram, I7, nvidia). I have a Motorola Milestone II with android and I don't like it. It's slow, and it looses calls. So Apple seems better quality hardware, thightly integrated with it's OS, but too expensive for me. As for Android, sure there are tablets out there that are nice, but I don't like them. I'm hoping that winRT running in ARM will bring cheap tablets to the market, I'm waiting to see that.
I don't think Microsoft is perfect in any way. I suffer all it's bugs everyday. But from there to Microsoft fanboyism, hahaha. In my work I also suffer Linux bugs, PHP bugs, Cisco bugs, and the list goes on. So, may be are you exercising Android fanboyism? And also, I came here to read what the new WinRT Surface users have to say about it, but i'ts not clear for me why are you writing about it here? It seems you are very happy with android? Have you bought a surface Tablet and don't like it or what?
Regards,
MarianoC.
- Edited by MarianoC Tuesday, November 6, 2012 4:30 PM
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Well, for cheap chinese tablets I mean the ones that sell under $40 us dollars. They run Android. For me a Tablet is for entertainment not work, so I would consider expensive anyone that is priced above a mid-power notebook today (I7, 8GB ram 500gb hd decent graphics AMD-Nvidia). I don't mean that all chinese tablets are awful, but the cheap ones do, but hey, they are less that $40. My notebook is an Asus, and I like it. One of my kids has an IPod 4 64Gb, I've used it and works fine, it seems expensive to me, but not for him. The other one has an IPad II, the same thing, it works, he payed more for it than my notebook (my asus is 16GB ram, I7, nvidia). I have a Motorola Milestone II with android and I don't like it. It's slow, and it looses calls. So Apple seems better quality hardware, thightly integrated with it's OS, but too expensive for me. As for Android, sure there are tablets out there that are nice, but I don't like them. I'm hoping that winRT running in ARM will bring cheap tablets to the market, I'm waiting to see that.
I don't think Microsoft is perfect in any way. I suffer all it's bugs everyday. But from there to Microsoft fanboyism, hahaha. In my work I also suffer Linux bugs, PHP bugs, Cisco bugs, and the list goes on. So, may be are you exercising Android fanboyism? And also, I came here to read what the new WinRT Surface users have to say about it, but i'ts not clear for me why are you writing about it here? It seems you are very happy with android? Have you bought a surface Tablet and don't like it or what?
Regards,
MarianoC.
The answer to you question: I have tried one but decided not to buy it. Although I am going to put my comments on an independent thread, here is the summary:
Windows RT/Surface RT disadvantages
(a) Not up to par with the other mobile OSes. Not yet, anyway. There are just too many things missing that can be found in Android and iOS.
(b) Too many OS services/utilities default to a not very friendly non-touch-like interface
(c) What is a ramp Office 2013 doing in this tablet? There is a whole plethora of Office file-compliant productivity suites out there built from the bottom up for tablets
(d) Relies strongly (and designed for) on a landscape orientation although I have been using most of my tablets mainly in the portrait mode
(e) Is it a laptop or a tablet???
(f) Underpowered
(g) Minimal ecosystem. I think that hopefully, everybody knows this.
My personal assessment is that Microsoft would have done much, much better if it built these tablets around Windows Phone 8 (for many, many reasons, including compatibility of applications). My feeling is that Microsoft started designing something that is primarily a mini-laptop and can be used occasionally as a tablet. I think that this is mostly something developers should play with. I am not sure that it is ready for prime time. It is not ready for my dollars, this is for sure.
I am not an Android fanboy. In fact, I used Windows Mobile up to version 6.5 and only moved to Android when Windows Phone 7.x badly failed to meet my expectations. I am not a great fan of the Metro interface. The so-called "live tiles" are not an innovation. Android had them for a long time (they are called widgets) and they are much better implemented there.
I find Android to be much closer to the promise and reality of Windows in a mobile platform that Windows has been for the last 2 years and currently is. What did we love about Windows?: we loved the endless customizability of the interface, we loved the freedom not to be shackled to stores and we loved the multiplicity of hardware and the choices that this gave us. Now, this is no longer true for Windows but it is true for Android!!!! I am ready to return to Windows in all platforms as soon as Microsoft decides that it no longer wants to be Apple.
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Wiki Activity Not Showing in Profile Lately
I'm noticing that Wiki activity is not showing up in Profile Activities lately, at least for the last few hours.
Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services
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It looks like the Wiki activity in our Profile has caught up now.
Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services
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My profile shows my last Wiki activity was 21 hours ago, but I had activity 7 hours ago, 10 hours, and 18 hours ago. I checked Ed Price's profile, and his activity only goes back 20 hours (at this moment), but there is no Wiki activity shown at all. There seems to be nothing in the past 20 hours. I assume the activity will catch up. Forum activity shows up immediately.
Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services
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Hi Richard,
I have other problem. My profile shows my last Wiki activity was 10 days ago and does not show new activity.
Regards
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The time it takes for Wiki activity to show up in our Profile seems to take anywhere from a few minutes to a day or more. At present it may be over a day.
Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services
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Hi Richard,
That is more than a day and does not show.
regards
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I cannot find anyone with Wiki activity in their profile in the last 6 days.
Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services
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WEI Scores Now Only Appear to Ratchet Upward
Doing a bit of benchmarking to see what various VM settings changes do for performance, I noticed that the WEI (WinSAT) scores I was getting in my Windows 8 VM would never go down.
Turns out WinSAT was just ratcheting up the scores and I never saw a score go down, even if on a particular run the performance was much less.
Yep, that'll fix it for all those folks who complain that their systems have lost performance. :-)
Note these commands, specifically, for the WinSAT command line:
Winsat formal -restart clean Reruns all assessments and provides the same functionality as "forgethistory".
Winsat forgethistory Choosing to forgethistory will rate a machine as if for the first time.
Moral of the story:
If you really want an assessment of how your Windows 8 system is running right now, open an elevated CMD prompt and type winsat forgethistory, THEN run your WEI assessment.
-Noel
| Detailed how-to in my eBooks: | Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options |
- Edited by Noel Carboni Monday, November 5, 2012 4:12 PM
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Nice tip thanks
Ken
MS-MVP 2010, 2011, 2012 Sysnative.com Team ZigZag
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"A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"
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No, something's different - clicking re-Run the assessment did NOT cause a full new calcuation in Windows 8 for me. That's precisely what I'm saying here.
Maybe the detection of when a reassessment of each category is needed has become less aggressive. I've done this kind of testing before with Windows 7 and have not seen the scores fail to re-evaluate on something as basic as changing the number of virtual cores in a VM, for example.
-Noel
| Detailed how-to in my eBooks: | Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options |
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Unattended install of FIM Portal only
I'm looking at unattended installs for deploying the various components of FIM 2010 R2.
I've been successful with the FIM Sync and FIM Service components, but am having problems with installing just the FIM Portal component.
In the first instance, I'm trying to install all the components on to a single server (though the FIM Sync and FIM Service databases are on a separate server). After a few unsuccessful attempts, I managed to get the following command line to at least install the product without error:
msiexec /i "d:\Service and Portal\Service and Portal.msi" ADDLOCAL=WebPortals EXISTINGDATABASE=1 SQLSERVER_SERVER=FIMServiceDB SQLSERVER_DATABASE=FIMService MAIL_SERVER=ex1.corp.contoso.com SERVICE_ACCOUNT_NAME=FIMService SERVICE_ACCOUNT_PASSWORD=PA$$w0rd SERVICE_ACCOUNT_DOMAIN=CORP SERVICE_ACCOUNT_EMAIL=fimservice@corp.contoso.com SYNCHRONIZATION_SERVER=fim1 SYNCHRONIZATION_SERVER_ACCOUNT=CORP\FIMMAService SERVICEADDRESS=fimsvc FIREWALL_CONF=1 SHAREPOINT_URL=http://localhost SHAREPOINTUSERS_CONF=1 /l*v %TEMP%\FIMPortalSetup.log
Performing a manual install with the information used in the command line is successful. However, after running the unattended install, when I start the Sharepoint Central Administration site, it reports a handful of errors related to the SPTimerService:
- The server farm account should not be used for other services -- not sure why this is happening as SharePoint Foundation is set up as Standalone
- Missing server side dependencies
- Outbound e-mail has not been configured
- Occasionally it also reports a problem with the STS
Can anyone point out what I might be doing wrong?
Steve G
- Changed type Markus VilcinskasMicrosoft employee Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:48 PM
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One thing to always check, is that you can get to the default SharePoint site before trying to install the FIM Portal. From you description it looks a as SharePoint problem more than a FIM Portal problem.
Also, from your command line it seems that you're not using FQDN for FIM service address/url? Have you properly configured Kerberos/SPN's for service accounts as described in the "Before you begin" section on TechNet. Not sure this has anything to do with your problem here, but you should definitely try to get this sorted out as well.
You could also try to turn on logging of MSIE using the /LV "C:\Temp\Install.log" parameter for msiexec.
Regards, Soren Granfeldt
blog is at http://blog.goverco.com | twitter at https://twitter.com/#!/MrGranfeldt
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Thanks for the reply, Søren.
I can reach the default SharePoint site prior to install.
The SPNs are registered as follows:
FIM Service:
- setspn -s FIMService/fimsvc corp\fimservice
- setspn -s FIMService/fimsvc.corp.contoso.com corp\fimservice
- setspn -s http/portal corp\spservice
- setspn -s http/portal.contoso.com corp\spservice
FIM Portal:
I've retried the installation using an FQDN for the FIM service address, but the result is the same. The verbose logging didn't show up anything either!
As this is a lab environment, I think I may just tear it down and start again. If the problem reoccurs, I'll post back.
Steve G
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OK, I've rebuilt the environment from scratch using manual methods and on the surface things appear to be OK, i.e. the FIM Portal now works!
The only issue I have is some errors reported by the SharePoint Health Anayzer as shown below:
I guess the warning about the server farm account could be ignored. The detail of the message complains about the SPUserCodeV4(Windows Service) account running under NetworkService. This is the same account as that used by the Farm account, though SPF was installed as Standalone not a farm.
The outbound e-mail configuration I can deal with, it is just the missing server side dependencies I can't figure out. The detail of the message is as follows:
[MissingSiteDefinition] 1 Sites in database [WSS_Content] has reference(s) to a missing site definition, Id = [10005], Lcid = [1033]. The site definitions with Id 10005 is referenced in the database [WSS_Content], but is not installed on the current farm. The missing site definition may cause upgrade to fail. Please install any solution which contains the site definition and restart upgrade if necessary.
Can anyone point to what may be causing these issues? Prior to installing the FIM Service and FIM Portal components, the SPF Central Administration site did not record any errors. They only seem to appear after the FIM Portal component is installed.
Steve G
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Need to create approval workflow moves document (msword) into document set upon approval
I have been asked to create an approval workflow where a user uploads a word doc and an email is sent to a group requesting approval. upon approval the uploaded document is moved to a specified document document set library. at this time I am not sure what the most efficient method would be to do this. Should I have the file uploaded directly to the doc library with a status of pending approval or should i upload it to a temporary "pending library" and then move the file to the document set after approval. I would appreciate anybody's thoughts.
windows 8 mail
Is there a way to prevent windows 8 from auto logging in into my mail account. Each time I click on my Hotmail bookmark on internet explorer it will log me in automatically and there is no way to switch to another account while on the browser, and it would never completely log off, I am not the only one who uses the computer so it would be helpful if could prevent windows from auto logging in and instead ask for email address and password like always.
- Changed type Nicholas Li Friday, November 16, 2012 9:01 AM
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Windows Server 2012 Essentials is Released To Manufactory today!
Today we are happy to announce that Windows Server 2012 Essentials has reached the release to manufacturing (RTM) milestone. You can download the RTM Evaluation copy from here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj659306.aspx?wt.mc_id=TEC_133_1_14
We are delivering the product to our hardware and ecosystem partners, and it will be generally available in all channels on November 1, with OEM partners shipping server systems by the end of the year.
See Sinead's post for details:
Thank you everyone for your feedbacks and support, if you have any comments/questions, please continue to use the Windows Server 2012 Essentials forum to talk:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserveressentials/threads
This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights. Ning Kuang[MSFT] Windows Server Program Manager
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And we should be excited by this because? Removing exchange and pushing our customers into YOUR cloud really doesn't excite me at all.
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