All we are saying is... give more options, aren't we?

After playing around with Windows 7, and reading a lot of the forum topics and responses, when it comes to way it looks and operates, I realize that all we are asking is for ways to be able to personalize the O/S to our liking. Each and every one of us has their own dislikes that we would like to be able to change to fit our own personal way it looks. I hope that Microsoft will take all these into consideration and give users the flexibility to modify the GUI to our liking.

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I found it quite flexible so far and I've even refrained from any registry tweaking to customize the GUI. Right now I'm just finding the Explorer a bit messy with all the personal folders and All Programs doesn't expand into separate folders, but what exactly is bugging you then?

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Nothing bugging me. But to have options removed that have been in the O/S for so many years, why take them away? Adjust your sensitivity a little, and read all that has been written so far maybe. You will see that a lot of people are wanting to make it as they like, what wrong with that?

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I didn't say there was anything wrong with that, I thought you might have some specific problems we could fix. And yes, there are countless threads and rants on this forum and I've probably read most of them.

Don't you think it's quite pointless to open up yet another thread if you won't go into specifics, but just make a casual reference to other threads?

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Frop said:

Right now I'm just finding the Explorer a bit messy with all the personal folders and All Programs doesn't expand into separate folders, but what exactly is bugging you then?

Why would All Programs expand into separate folders for automatically one would ask?

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First Impressions of W7

My setup includes:
AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 & 4GB RAM
W7 64-bit

I completed a fresh/new install of W7 to ensure I was able to experience the full features of the new OS. Right out of the gate I experienced performance issues. I installed gadgets to allow real time monitoring of CPU & memory & network access. Both the 32-bit & 64-bit IE web browsers would take at least 60 seconds to start. No CPU or memory activity was taking place... it was really strange. I installed Firefox & Minefield and both started incredibly fast. So, I'm not sure if this is an issue with the OS or with IE... but it certainly affected which browser I used.

I also noticed some latency in the browser when streaming video... despite my having a 20Mb pipe in.

I'm going to continue to use W7 for a couple of weeks to see how it works and try different programs. I certainly like several of the features MS has brought to this OS... gadget freedom, pinning of apps to taskbar, etc... lots of cool things I have yet to really use.

Just my 2 cents... Will give other feedback later.

THANKS!

Dan

3rd party firewall working

pc tools free firewall works
note i have gone through nearly all the others they dont work. but if anyone out there is like me.. i hate windows firewall

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Am I missing something here? I think the firewall has taken great leaps. For me (home user) it negates the need for a third party firewall.

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New here but testing every day.. The WIN 7 FW while better still provides for NO outgoing FW. It fails the assorted Gibson leak tests. I want a FW that will control both incoming and outgoing access.
I was able to install COMODO IT suite. The virus checker worked well but the FW appeared to be doing nothing. I un-installed that one.
It does work great in VISTA and XP

I will try KSPY and PC tools.. I really want a FW more then a virus checker.
I am running VIPER just fine- it find the normal cookies.

Roger R

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windows firewall does nothing about protecting from outgoing programs. i like to know what is sending info. out from my pc and and the choice to allow it or not. also win firewall does to inform us applications using other applications to access the net.

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just to make things clear the whole point of security is to protect our privacy from leaving our control. we all at one time or another do something stupid and allow something bad into our machines. when that happens windows will not inform us of that item trying to send private information to wherever. but 3rd party firewalls if enabled will not allow automatic outgoing connections or application hijacking without our consent.

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Icon shadows

Hi!

Normal Icons (my own designed) have the correct black shadow.

But the Live-Folder-Icons gets a white shadow from the system (the Icons have the right black shadow).

greetings

Logitech Setpoint 4.7 (x64)

Hey guys, this consistently bugs out over multiple installs

I'm using an MX Revolution and a dinovo Edge, with Setpoint 4.7 x64 on W7x64.

I find that whenever I use keystroke macros on the Revolution, the Left click changes itself to middle click, and the main scroll wheel changes to zoom.
This is persistent across all programs even when Setpoint is closed.
The bug is fixed upon restart of Setpoint, but arises every time I use multiple keystroke assignments (simple Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab).

I have had no issues using the keyboard or my other mouse.
Hopefully this helps :)

Cheers.

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This was tricky on my Windows 7 64 bits too.

So I decided to come back to setPoint 4.6 64 bits. Big big bug -> the auto updater goes in an infinite loop and freeze the PC.

But to stop that I decided to rename the LULnchr.exe to LULnchr.exe_ (it's in the folder 'LU') before it goes wild.

A reboot and my MX Revolution works great now.

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Networking with W7 "fast and easy" (sure, only if all the other computers are running it too)

After running Windows 7 for a week or so now, I've found it very similar to Vista in more ways than one. While being undeniably prettier than even Vista was, and with more easily accessible system options and functions, I still see a very big problem in the networking area. This operation system, as with Vista, has not been designed to easily and seamlessly work with computers running any older versions of Microsoft's operating systems. As all Windows operating systems come from the same company, there is no excuse why new versions of Windows should not be easy and simple to network to existing computers that are forced to run older versions of Windows due to hardware restrictions. For example, I had the beta version of Windows 7 running on a quad core, Vista Ultimate running on a dual-core, XP on an Inspiron 4150, and 2000 Server on a Compaq ML370 G2 server. They are all running off a router for internet connection, but none of them can see anything from the other, be it be a local printer, shared network drive, or even a simple shared folder. For this reason, after a week, I have reverted to running XP on all three personal computers, and 2000 on the server. Most networks are not going to consist of only computers that are able to run the latest version of Windows, and being as companies and private customers are not in the position nowadays to replace every computer in their network, this version is going to succeed as well as Vista did. True, a few pre-built systems with an OEM license will sell, but thoes of us that purchase multiple licenses from Microsoft will not be interested in W7 as we need to continue to be able to allow all the computers in our networks to continue to operate together without making any major hardware changes to the computers already running. I for one will continue to purchase XP licenses for each computer I build, until the operating system is released that does not put restrictions on what computer it will or will not allow to share a network with. So basically, come on Microsoft, release a new operating system that is as easy to network to any other version as it is to network two XP systems.

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I do find it strange how the sort of person who cannot be bothered to read through the other networking threads for a solution to see how easy it actually is to set up a network insists of telling MS that networking is awful.

It find it even more absurd that you say networking is difficult even tho if you know what you are doing it is easily setup.

People do not seem willing to adapt to change, and well, from MS perspective, I imagine their answer will simply be 'well, you cant please everybody'.

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Will01 said:

Perhaps that sort of person is trying to test network behaviour from 'vanilla' Windows installations. After all, the average user isn't going to figure this out all by himself or by browsing the Microsoft TechNet Forums.

Microsoft has always promised seamless integration of network capabilities and I agree with the OP that they should deliver for a change. Obviously any power user could get this to work across all the platforms, but that's besides the point.

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Unlike Vista, I was able to get my shares up and running right away after W7 install.

I was able to set my workgroup name and see my other machines (all XP SP3), and shares right away.
I did ask for a user name & pass with permissions on each machine, which is to be expected.
The behavior of the discovery leads me to believe that W2K should not be a problem.

I am going to try a Linux box shortly and see how discovery works with that.

What I have encountered is far more intuitive than what I experienced with Vista.

If your going for the workgroup type environment, I would suggest the Work network setting.
Go from there.

I haven't investigated the Homegroup set up yet, but I have gotten further in 4 hours than I did in days of screwing with Vista.

Use some patience and read the fine print, all of my moves were made with instructions in the option descriptions.

Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have had no issues with sharing of network resources in my Windows 7 beta testing. I have several machines running Windows 7, Vista, and XP, one older Windows 2000 server that is still running SQL 2000, that will soon be migrated. I have had my Windows 7 machines part of a Windows 2003 Domain Infrastruture, and Windows 2008 Domain Infrastructure, as well as not part of any domain, and have yet to see any problems with network connectivity between any of the network resources that are properly configured.

Shon

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i want to share files as easily as i did in XP, that didnt happen with vista, and thanks to the new homegroup screwing things up on W7 its even worse, i could see my shares but didnt have permission to use them, even after setting permissions. so go ahead and say how simple it was, but my clients dont know this stuff and no searching the net is going to help them with IP adresses or permissions.

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Whilst I do have some connection issues that seem to be through using WPA2 I have zero problems networking with other PCs in the house.

Using nothing but the defaults it installed with I communicate with XP Pro, Vista Ultimate and a SUSE box quite happily and easily.

I also forgo the option to set a Homegroup as its pretty much pointless.

I can understand that some people may have issues that others don't due to hardware and drivers etc or just from not knowing what they are doing at times, however from my current experience with 7, there is nothing wrong with the actual OS when it comes to this.

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lastot069 said:

That's what I meant by "not being able to see" in my original post. One thing I must do is to be able to do is to map multiple network drives off all of the computers on the network. I could get my network places to show me the other computer's names, but no permissions were granted right off the bat. I have decided to go ahead and try again to work through what it will take to get it to work anyways, so as to be able to help my customers when they decide to upgrade to W7 in the future. I still very much like the work Microsoft put into this, a genuine attempt to satisfy everyone that was very disappointed with Vista, and I commend them for that. However, there is a long way to go in the more intricate networking areas. I still stick to my earlier post, that they would easily be able to make it as "click-and-go" as an exclusively XP or 2000 network, so as to why it isn't, who knows? All I can think of is that they want everybody with a desktop and wireless laptop, being the most common home network out there trying to share resources, to have to upgrade to the latest OS every time one is released. I may be wrong, but what else am I supposed to think? Bottom line is that my customers want me in and out of their homes as fast as possible, and having to go through an hour process to do something so simple is not acceptable.

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Hitch said:

I also forgo the option to set a Homegroup as its pretty much pointless.

Good idea Hitch, and thank you. I will try leaving out the Homegroup on this install. However, I must wonder about pre-built systems with this OS already installed and configured before it even leaves the shelf. Guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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Im sure in time someone will find a way to turn all the ____ off by registry values or other, but i would rather see them not implemented at all. my router has built in firewall and my software covers virus and malware. my router also has wireless security so i cant be hacked from outside. so why do i need OS systems i cant turn off?

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wow, the forum blanked out c_r_a_p, didnt even know that was a bad word

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What I see from the OP and a few others is:

a) Putting the cart before the horse
b) bad mouthing a beta before you even know all the features

I was able to do everything you have complained about without changing the setting on my other machines.

What you have done is jumped ahead and not read the instructions or feature sets before integrating this OS in your network.

Even with the homegroup function turned on, I was able to change the workgroup name and see the rest of my wired and wireless network (WAP2) immediately. My shares all work swimmingly. I mapped a drive to the W7 box with no difficulties, and it still existed after a reboot.

I think the OP's problem is he is obsessed with implementing this OS (that is far from production) even though it isn't for sale yet.

Riddle me this OP: How many times have used the direct feedback link in the Beta to convey your problems to Micosoft?

I had my network running in the time it took you to post your complaints...

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BLITZKRIEG1 said:

BLITZKRIEG1 looks like a good name for you seeing as how you just come out attacking people here. relax a bit, its not personal!

I myself am a certified computer tech and a Damn good network Admin, i think i know a little about what im doing and it didnt work for me. on a few vista machines i had difficulty also, but with tweaking they worked. this didnt work at all even with tweaking. so im glad yours worked for you but i would expect that an option that has worked well since W95 would work in even a beta of W7, and it didnt. its not really a high standard

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BLITZKRIEG1 said:

I think the OP's problem is he is obsessed with implementing this OS (that is far from production) even though it isn't for sale yet.

Since my original post, I have put W7 back on the quad, and have been able to get most of what I want done to work, but my point is that it was not "quick and easy". While it is true those of us that know what we are doing will get it done, most folks out there are not going to have the patience or desire to bully through it. As I said earlier, other than this one area, I like the features, look and feel of W7. I have to be "obsessed" with learning as much as I can with implementing this version as soon as possible, as by the beginning of next year, the majority of computers I'm going to have to work on will have either Vista, W7, or both on them. Since this beta has been made available, I would be foolish to not get a step up on it. And Blitz, I have nothing personal against Microsoft or this OS, I just feel that the networking area has been elevated above the average user's skill level once XP was no longer the flagship OS for personal computers, and it would seem most folks feel the same way.

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Why MS should listen to gamers

People who play video games can often be extremests who are known for needing the newest technology avalible to facilitate their gaming needs. MS should pay special attention to them, as they are most likely to be a large portion of the people who buy or pass over W7. I have many friends who wouldn't make the transition to Vista because of the performance issues. Due to this, MS should make this version of Windows run as good as possible. It is important to the average user, but much more to gamers. The ESA found that, as of 2007, 65% of households play video or computer games. That is obviously a large amount, over half, and should not be ignored. Does anyone else agree, or do you think that the Vista formula worked well?

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That is true.
But just because you listen doesn't mean you satisfy everybody since someone will always find something to complain about.
Vista has been fine with my games, true it uses more RAM and other resources than it did when I had XP but I have enough to spare for it.
I have a "____" computer that runs XP perfectly fine. One time I tried to change that to Vista but it was so bad it was unbearable. I guess it just depends on the hardware you have running.

Basically it has to run better on average to low end hardware since stuff becomes somewhat obsolete so fast

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I agree with you both, but FMCFPI makes a point on the older hardware. If they made Win7 run only on mid to high end PCs, they cut out avenue of revenue from those using older hardware that possibily would upgrade to the newset OS.

I know a bunch of us have mentioned Profiles, I think that would apease us gamers EvilGok. If we could enable "Gamer" mode and our OSes tuned itself to the best performance for gaming, that would be the ticket. I know AMD has a beta program that is doing that. Its called Fusion. It turns off services and OCs your video card and system, if you have a Spider or Dragon platform. If you have Intel, I just think its the OS services.

Its great that the hardware manufactures are listening to us, we just have to get Microsoft hearing us as well. I think if Microsoft got on the ball and embraced us, compatibility for all these tweaks we search for would be much easier , stable, and reiable.

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I really do love the idea of a gamers profile.
A profile that on logon, literally runs like safe mode. Keeping all but the required kit switched off (maybe with an option in the sidebar etc to turn on individual services)

That being said.
I don't do much gaming on my PC
Command and Conquer and Crysis seem to be it for me and i have to say that most of the time its more down to the hardware than the OS installed.

Also, can anyone say "DX10"?
i love microsoft for giving us that.
But i do hate that it is limited to vista rigs.

Just my opinion

This Is Your Life And Its Ending One Minute At A Time

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I have noticed myself that XP64 runs more stable than Vista64 gaming wise. Now I have a rather touchy setup using a TRI-SLI rig and pushing my CPU about 800mhz over, the FSB 450mhz over, the GPU up 20%, memory up 35% and Vista just doesn't cut it. Obviously the best stability is found on my XP32bit platform but Vista64 will run smoother...when it runs and doesnt BSOD every 5-15 minutes. I won't encounter this issue much at all on xp64 bit and never on 32bit so far. This is done in Crysis+warhead, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, COD4 & 5, GTR Evo, GTR2, GTR Legends, and Halo 1&2.

I have noticed there are people that have a very satisfied experience with Vista then others that are less than enthusiastic with it. I find myself using XP for the games even if I don't get DX10 and Vista for anything data related, web browsing, etc...

I agree with the idea of a gamers boot mode. That would be awesome X209482309482. I wonder if this idea is being noticed at all. It came up in another thread too, one of the ram usage threads. It's an EXCELLENT idea. Would save me a lot of time having to go through all the services one by one and doing it myself.

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The difficulty with such things is that we are talking about a PC, not a console. As a result, the variety of hardware people are running is vast. This in essence means, it is almost impossible for MS to make an OS that will suit everybody.

I agree, they should pay attention to games, but it is a lot more difficult on a PC than on say, their 360.

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How about an example.

When you play Crysis, there is a setting for performance where you can tell the game to scan your hardware and align the settings with the best way your PC can run with it.

So back to the gamer profile,
It would have to be an administrator account and would probably have to be activated as opposed to being live by default
But it could do something similar.
Analyse the machine and shutdown (or start up as the case may be) services that are not required, upping the performance of your games.

In my opinion, as games get more and more system heavy, the more this, or a similar idea, needs to be implemented.

This Is Your Life And Its Ending One Minute At A Time

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Well... true when gaming ison, that you really don't need SQL Server active or IIS or even the screen saver!
The game profile is a very good idea! I like it!

Adelino Araujo

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I like the idea of multiple profiles to maximise performance v. functionality for the applications that need it.

I think that gamers need to be considered - definitely - but this is an OS for very varied uses so equally needs input from every type of user too.

After all, as has been said before, if it was an OS purely for gaming, it would be quite different and be closer to a console.

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I believe AMD game fits the bill. It does everything you say about gamming profiles. I think the problem is this the OS is just the base. If you are a gamer then you need to know and be informed what works and what doesn't. You want to be a gamer then learn everything you need to know. That means educating yourself on a ton of stuff and figure it out for yourself. As for me, I am a computer tech that has been dealing with MS and games for over 20 years now and it all comes down to the knowledge of OS, hardware setups and what works and what doesn't. Don't blame MS for not doing something That you want for yourself. You need to go and find what works. Thats not MS's job. They just make OS's and stuff.
Getting a rig ready for serious gaming is not MS's problem. Thats a problem for you to discover the answer to. Why should that be MS's job? Thats why I never bought Vista. I worked with it too much to know that it was bloatware. As for Windows 7, I think it has great potential to become the next great OS. All they got to do now is get the hardware companies to get great drivers out so it makes thier software look good. And thats really is the problem isn't it. The OS is only as good as the underlying drivers that power those high tech hardware.
Looking at AMD and ATI I think from a tech standpoinjt they have the best chance to power this OS to it's fullest. Even with beta drivers I have seen great performance even from my rather small vid card the 4850. Comming from x64 Pro to this version I feel like it is more powerful and able to do what I wanted which is gaming.

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I've basically have created gamer profiles for XP. You can tweak it so only minimal resoruces load to run games.

THe thing is. DX 10 is ues on the 360 as well, and has been updated several times with a totally remake coming. THe problem is it is specific to the console, memory use and clearing, and PC's typically are neglected with the memory and left to load load load, with out clearin gout the garbage.

Vista actaully runs Gears of War really well, but it was made for it. I see higher performance and visuals on a nice Vista based system over an xp system. Now, you also need good memory, a fast hard drive, and a DX 10 card video card.

The new Nvidia drivers actaully work well now, the ATI ones still have some quarks. The latest series of Nvidia cards just rock, I usaully prefer ATI for clarity. When I say latest Nvidia cards I mean the 200 series, not the old 9000 series.

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it may be me, but wouldnt an OS made to run well on low end hardware scream on a good system?

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Not always, driver cahnges can affect things, out of date games with newer drivers, firmware updates, thigns can get quarky. Xp rusn great on low end systems , but can run into issues with high end DUal and quad core CPU's. THe problem with PC's will always be, there are to many hardware options and no true optimizations by default.

That's why game consoels can get away with half the memory, not runnign hudge over heads, and have customized memory that clears and loads on the fly in a more effective manor (if develoeprs utilize it).

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diiorio said:

any game can have trouble on any system, im talking Operating System. surfing the net, and running an office suite doesn't have a real system dependency. for games you will always need new this or that to be compatible, but thats a problem of the game developers, not microsoft, it is there job to make their game work in the OS, even if they have to install drivers into the games like they used to.

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I have to say that the game setting is a wonderful idea-- too bad MS seems to always miss what most people see as obvious

AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor 2.51 GHz, 4.00 GB memory, 2 NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTs in SLI, running on Windows 7 64-bit Beta

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Def need the game option, rather of people having to go through tweak like crazy and create a separate one. I mean with how vista is, it can have a game mode, click, unload ____ and play the games you have installed and set.

Been playing around with win 7 a bit, If I unload effect it uses about 500mb of memory, like a standard configured XP that isn't optimized (optimized you get around 350mb used which is nice). When I set most features except sliding effect of programs (who cares if an opening app slowly slides up, I want it to pop up) I'm using around 620mb of ram with MSN messenger and Myspace messenger loaded (Myspace messenger can be a hog alone).

Many of the services shown aren't running often, at boot you need to decide what is need and force disable rest.

Maybe a game mode will be added, they seem to want to support and focus on Windows Live/Xbox Live and Xbox 360 compatibility, so a having a Gamer mode would be a smart choice. So it can load the needed drivers, network interface, a better WIndow Live sign in for your gamer tag, and have all the unneeded stuff not load.

Think they are listening? POKE POKE.

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I too would like to see some kind of a profile setting for individual users.
Gamers, developers, work,...profiles.
Or some kind of learning system that tracks users habits and create in real time profile to suit them.
In turn disabling dll's and service that are not needed giving us more power (reduced cpu, gpu, mem, diskwrites and reads) where we want it.

Tigacatch

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Freeze During ''Starting Windows''

After Instalation of the Windows 7 Beta, My PC Restarts and goes into the ''Starting Windows'' Screen. And that's it, nothing else happens. I see a black screen with Starting Windows and the Windows Logo. It doesn't go into the OS. Any Way to fix this?

Changed type Mark L. Ferguson Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:07 AM

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A lot of us on this forum have posted similar issue. I tried enabling boot logging and it doesn't even start to write the log file. I'm thinking it's an IDE driver or chipset interface issue. My system has SIS 648/963 chipset. What's yours?

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I have no clue and I can't check it because I can't get into the OS. Anything I could try?

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This is a hardware question, would be based on your Motherboard in your system.

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So what should I do?

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Hold down F8, when the system is first booting and choose the boot previous operating system option (think it's something like "Earlier Version of Windows"). I've found no work around to get past the issue, just went back to my old operating system.

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Well Windows7 started off fine. It was very fast booting and shutdown. after about 6 or 7 reboots to move back and forth between my primary OS Vista Ultimate and Windows7 I suddenly could no longer access Vista, the Computer froze up, I was finally after about 1 1/2 hours able to get Vista to boot and opened MSConfig I found that Windows7 had installed as the default OS, I switched Vista back to the default OS, and was then unable to access Windows7 getting errors that I needed disk drivers. I finally F_Disked my D drive and re-installed Windows7. At completion of the install I checked MSCONFIG and re-set Vista as the default before trying to access Vista. I then started a 476 Meg down load and during the down load Windows7 crashed. this download had been sucessfuly completed under the initial install, installed and worked VERY well...............Gentlemen you have an issue.
my systen is twin Xeon at 3.06, 4 GIG ram 2-250 SATA drives.

Any one have any Ideas ??

I was dual booting to separate drives

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I think I have the same problem. It always freezes on the starting windows screen, but there is a twist in this case. Each time I boot it brings me to the screen in which you set up a username and password, but it won't allow me to use the username I used before, saying that it is already in use. Then after setting up a new account and re-inputting the product key, I get to a logon screen with the (growing) list of usernames that I've tried using. After clicking any of these is when it goes to the starting windows screen and locks up.

Here are the specs of my system:

Phenom Quad 9600
Gigabyte GA-MA69GM-S2H Motherboard (AMD 690G chipset)
4GB OCZ Platinum series DDR2
ATI Radeon HD 3600 512MB graphics
1x74GB WD Raptor SAT drive (windows 7 x64)
1x1TB WD GreenPower drive (Vista Ultimate x86)
1x1TB Samsung drive (storage)

I hope this gets resolved soon, as I am very anxious to give Windows 7 a whirl.

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try an F-Disk and re-install

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Already tried that twice.

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Back to, Windows7 People, you have an ISSUE :( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Does the design team actually read any of this, or do they think that getting feedback from inside win7 is good enough?

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Just tried x86 version and it worked fine, then tried x64 again and still fails. So this seems to be purely an x64 issue, at least in my case.

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X86 here

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Performance in general

I think the performance on Win7 is very well... and I think, it's even better than on XP...
If I work in Windows, open folders, programs, etc. I think, it's much faster than XP.

windows

I like the new version. I had a few problems at first. But was able to resolve them. The only issue right now is my video card.windows still wants to update it on its own....... I especially like how easy it is to navigate thru, or to specific programs. Even the control panel is alot easier to use.

Jim

:) :D

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Changed type Sigourney_Weaver Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:36 PM
Changed type Sigourney_Weaver Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:36 PM
Edited by Sigourney_Weaver Sunday, March 7, 2010 4:30 PM

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Hi, which versions of SQL Server and BIDS are you using? Assuming version 08 for both, my comments are:

exact copy of it in BIN folder
--without config we still get this; the files in BIN folder are for application purpose, while the copy under the project folder is for develpment purpose.

exact copy in BIN\[Configuration Name]\ folder
--the path should be the one you specified in Project Properities -> Deployment Utility tab -> "DeploymentOutputPath". By defalt, it's in BIN\Deployment\. You get this copy only after you set Deployment Utility tab -> "CreateDeploymentUtility" as True. This is orthogonal with "configuration" thing.

in BIN\[Configuration Name]\ folder there is a file called DTS Migration.SSISDeploymentManifest
--in DeploymentOutputPath, there is a .SSISDeploymentManifest file with the same name of package.

What if I want to create another dtsConfig file, do I have go back into designer and use some package to generate another dtsConfig file and then, go back to designer and redesign all other packages, by changing link to another dtsConfig file all over againm, and, recompile and get dozens more triple copies of all the packages.
-- as mentioned, if you don't build a package, you won't get a copy in BIN (or even BIN); if you don't set CreateDeploymentUtility, you won't get another copy in DeploymentOutputPath. Since config and deployment are two things, i don't understand your question well. Could you give a sample scenario?

Thanks,

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Before win 7 said I have speakers, but no sound. NOW I have the sound, but win 7 say I don't have speakers.??

I downloaded Realtek drivers for Vista 32 bit

confused... I am

regards
Michael

Duplicate drive partitions in My Computer

Recently I changed over my SATA cables, i'm preety sure I connected the drives to the same port as before.
Since then I now have duplicate drives in My Computer.
I have 2 HDD's configured in RAID 1 (mirrored) with 3 partitions, C: D: and F:. But now I have G: H: and I: showing as exact copies of C,D and F.
I'm suspecting my RAID has gone a bit funny and isn't hiding the mirrored drive, any ideas anyone?

Changed type Robinson ZhangModerator Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:03 AM change to comment

Reply:

Hi,

Before moving on, please help me confirm the following points:

1. Are you using a hardware based RAID controller?

2. Does the RAID 1 still working? (If you create a txt file on drive D, does it appear on drive H?)

Then, please check RAID setting in BIOS, and try to disable RAID and enable RAID. The RAID problem may be caused by incorrect BIOS settings. If your RAID controller has own utility, try to verify settings in utility. Thank you for your cooperation.

Hope it helps.

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Reply:

Hi,

The mirror is working ie if i made a test file on one drive it appears in the other, i think the RAID had turned itself off though in the BIOS, seems ok now

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Encountered my first installation problem

I have Windows XP installed and have converted my disk to a dynamic disk. I have a system volume and a dynamic volume. I also have 20+ GB of unallocated space on which I intended to install Win 7.

Unfortunately I barely get into the installation and then I get a message saying Windows cannot be installed because a dynamic volume exists on the disk.

I want to avoid having to backup the laptop and convert back to a basic disk.

Thoughts or suggestions?

Galey

Reply:

Easiest way is to use a program to repartition your hard drive, Here! is a link to a step-by-step process that should allow you to do that without causing any data loss.
Alternatively, you could use a VM client to install it on and then play around in it that way.

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Reply:

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately partitioning is not the problem, I have plenty of free space to install to. The issue appears to be that if you are running Windows XP and convert your disk to a Dynamic Disk as opposed to a Basic Disk you cannot install Windows 7 to a partition on that disk.

I have installed Virtual PC 2007 and have run up Win 7 in that and it purrs along OK.

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Cannot Install Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable

It seems I need the c++ redistributable to run something else that I want to run, but it's not installing. It crashes after I press Next once. Tried compatibility mode in both Vista and XP mode. Anything I can do about it?

Changed type Ronnie VernonMVP Saturday, February 7, 2009 2:44 AM

Reply:

somethings not right there i'm running the Windows 7 (64) and currently have C++2008 x64 Redistributable version 9.0.21022. installed , no problems or errors trying to install it, is it a web install variant you are trying to run or the full download? i would contemplate trying to re-download, then do a reboot and try re-installing.

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Reply:

Hi, how many version of the install are there?
The installer I got was from here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

Are there other sources to get it from as well?

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Well here's the code from one of the files that the windows send off to microsoft after the error. There is another file but when opened in an Editor is full of gibberish. Have tried everything. Went to safe mode, repaired the windows installation. Nothing working.

Can anyone with a x86 Windows 7 try installing the package and see if it works? Thank you.

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[SOLVED] External USB drive not detected

After connecting external USB drive, it did not appear in Windows.
But... device manager showed a new device "USB 2.0 IDE adapter". The device was with "not functioning properly" and had down arrow as an overlay icon.
After some trial and error, I understood that this icon means disabled device.
Enabling this device and then enabling USB Storage Device appeared, solved the problem.

Hardware Identifier

So I try with my German English. Network Adapter and Graphic Adapter will not be detected on 2 Machines. Both run with XP and no problems. Booting from DVD shows Code 5 can't boot, whatever this means. With no connection to the Internet, feedback is very difficult. What I have seen is no reason to order a new operating system.

How am I supposed to find Microsoft forums?

How am I supposed to find Microsoft forums?

Here is an example. I want to get to Microsoft forums. I arrive to Microsoft.com and get this page:
Microsoft.com

Then I try to see a link to the forums, but can't find any. There might be a link, maybe I just don't notice / see it. I browse through some of the menus in the menu bar. I select Support -> Help & Support Home. Then I arrive to support.Microsoft.com and get this page:
support.Microsoft.com

Then I get desperate, where is the link to the forums? Can't notice / see one.

I know there is MSDN and TechNet and Newsgroups and I see MSDN and TechNet links, but those are not labeled FORUMS. I would expect that I get to forums by selecting "Forums", not some weird letter combinations like "MSDN".

Then there are Microsoft forums (in addition to MSDN and TechNet). I arrived there from MSDN, because one moderator forwarded my message to Microsoft forums, not through a link in Microsoft.com.
social.Microsoft.com

Reply:

Yes, they hide it well. Googling "msdn forums" takes you to the old forums site. You'll have some hope of landing on the new one when you click a random thread there. Bookmark it so you'll never have to type "social" again.

Hans Passant.

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Reply:

I guess Microsoft doesn't like the idea of forums much, because they do not advertise the forums on the first page of Microsoft site.

Now there is no MSDN forums link in MSDN page. Temporary problem or what?

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vista over xp?? nah... don't think so....

Sorry to disagree with those that say that vista is better than xp.....

I installed the 32 bit vista when i got a quad core phenom, and 4 gigs memory..... liked it at first, and I've been building my own systems for about 10 years or so....

I had too many programs stop responding, vista not seeing the network after running for awhile, etc. Winamp would start locking up, explorer would lock up... I had to reboot 2-3 times a day... haven't had to do that since win98...got old.... I really didn't want to reload 32 bit xp on my kickass system.... but ended up doing that... and installing the 64 bit win7 as a dual boot.

I guess when the win7 beta closes, I'll have to chose between keeping 32 bit xp, maybe 64 bit xp, but I need to use some 32 bit prgs for work that don't run on win7 64 bit.... trying 64 bit xp, or waiting for Fixta (win7) release.

IMHO... win7 should be given free to people who paid for vista... basically a major service pack....

Reply:

Um... no.

I like Vista a lot. I'm running it on a laptop with a Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 8600 something or other. That's not a screaming machine (though it certainly isn't slow) and I've had not one problem with it. Same goes for the other 3 Vista machines in my household. It seems to me that Windows 7 is basically Vista SP2. They're virtually identical from what I've seen thus far. I do like the new taskbar a hell of a lot, though.

I have had two or three major problems with 7, but that's to be expected, it's a beta.

The most I could possibly see is some sort of rebate for Vista users.

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Reply:

I am among those people who think that Vista since SP1 is the better OS and I am mostly referring to "under-the-hood" improvements instead of just shiney GUI stuff. Most of the problems concerning Vista are related to improperly build drivers and software. You can hardly blame Vista for that developers don't get their act together.

On the other hand I am astounded how easily people give good credits to Windows 7 as if it has just fallen from heaven. It's an evolutionary step from Vista and mostly just builds on what's already running good in Vista (I'm very eager to see all the Mark Russinovich stuff at work though).

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Kaspersky Internet Security

Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 is working just fine on this beta. I have windows defender shut off since I trust Kaspersky with that level of defense too. Sorry MS. Still like the beta so far and no problems installing apps I have running XP SP3. 32bit SYS BTW.

Even defragged X with Win7 and XP ran fine when I booted it afterward. And its on a different drive and different partition. Install programs from same drive as xp but other partition. No graphic progress image with degrag like vista. ;-(

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