Moving, Renaming, Deleting, not refreshing
Has anyone else noticed that if you're renaming or moving runbooks through the Runbook Designer that they aren't rerfreshing properly? I have been caught out deleting empty folders (or folders I believed were empty of runbooks) as they have remained there post move.
Seems that you need to hit refresh after renaming runbooks or folders or moving. Anyone else experienced this? Running v. 7.0.1154.0
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I've seen similar and did open a feedback item on it ... will need to check with Orchestrator 2012 SP1 CTP 2 to see if the problem persists :
http://www.systemcentersolutions.co.uk/index.php/scom/entry/careful-moving-checked-out-runbooks
Regards Graham New System Center 2012 Blog! - http://www.systemcentersolutions.co.uk
View OpsMgr tips and tricks at http://systemcentersolutions.wordpress.com/
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Blog post: Secure AD Password Reset with FIM 2010 R2
This post discusses FIM SSPR with particular regard to information disclosure, the security and soundness of password reset questions, and the new One-Time Password gates in FIM 2010 R2.
http://zetetic.net/blog/2012/9/4/secure-active-directory-password-reset-with-fim-2010-r2.html
Windows 7 and VBS2 VTK
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We use a gaming application named VBS2 (http://virtualbattlespace.vbs2.com/) which is based on Bohemia Interactive's Armed Assault. The purpose of this application is to use present gaming technology for real-world, military virtual simulations that can also tie into staple military constructive simulations. The second part of this application is the developer tools to help create terrains, models, etc.
Both the application and developer tools are protected via a HASP, USB dongle that at runtime goes through and ensures that all of the encrypted files are authorized for use.
When opening up any of the developer tools, the HASP application starts to ensure the user is authorized to use them and then relinquishes control to the application. This works as advertised on Windows 7 beta, build 7000.
When opening the main program, the VBS VTK, the HASP applications starts. However, when it comes time to relinquish control to the VBS2 application, crashed and generates a dialog box saying "Unknown error: 1025."
I have ensured that I used the latest HASP drivers from Aladdin (http://www.aladdin.com/hasp/default.aspx).
In Windows Vista SP1, the VBS2 VTK application worked fine.
I would like to beta test Windows 7 in my work environment; however, this is a show stopper since VBS2 VTK is one of our primary productivity applications.
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We use the same system over here, and I would like to see VBS run smooth with the final version of Windows 7. The military is training on these systems more and more, so it is important to get this right.
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I'm just installin seven rc1.
I've got also VBS2 VTK and the same error from HASP key (unknow error 1025)
I think this trouble is due to HASP drivers. If you want, i've found HASP windows 7 beta drivers... but doesn't work too... :(
Johan
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Try to install windows seven x64. I do that and all works fine.
Thanks to W0lle who give me this tip (on BIA support forum).
Regards,
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System Center Management Service will not start: Error Code -2130771849
OS: Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1
System Center Component: Operations Manager
Service Accounts: Domain Accounts
System Center Configuration Service - Started
System Center Management Service - Not Started
System Center Data Access - Started
Error message:
windows could not start the system center management on <Server Name>. for mor information... refer to service-specific error code: -2130771849
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HI there,
THe System Center Management Service is effectively the HealthService.exe process. A couple of things to check here first:
As the HealthService utilises a cache folder on the local system drive (C:\), check the basics such as disk space etc. to ensure there's enough resources available
Try restarting the management server
Check your anti-virus exclusions and quarantine to ensure that the HealthService.exe and MonitoringHost.exe aren't being blocked
Have a look a the following posts to clear down the cache on your management server:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/kevinholman/archive/2009/10/01/fixing-troubled-agents.aspx
http://www.systemcentercentral.com/BlogDetails/tabid/143/IndexID/26999/Default.aspx
Also, make sure to check the Operations Manager Windows Event Log and not just the system or application logs.
Hope this helps,
Kevin.
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How to run a Script created in Sql Server 2008 R2 Management Studio in Sql 2008 Express R2?
How to run a Script created in Sql Server 2008 R2 Management Studio in Sql 2008 Express R2?
There is no UI to create a database and run script ...PLease tell me how could i do that?
- Edited by NirajZ Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:22 AM
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Hello,
Please download and install SQL Server Management Studio Express Edition from the following links:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7593
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22985
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Alberto Morillo
SQLCoffee.com
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You may also check out
osql Utility
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SQL Server Setup Team
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How to disable the four prompts after installation of Outlook 2007
I used OCT to create the MSP file. The command I use to install Outlook 2007 quietly is
setup.exe /config outlook.ww\config.xml /adminfile updates\outlook1.msp
After installation of Outlook 2007, I get prompted to answer questions about
Privacy Options
Sign up for MS Update
Enable Instant Search
Synchronization of RSS Feeds
How can I get those prompts disabled?
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It seems that anything modified in the "Modify User Settings" area in the OCT is ignored.
If anyone has any light to shed on our problem, it would be apreciated.
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hi dave
have you'll ever found a solution to this problem? drop me a mail if so desan.reddy@mondigroup.co.za
thanks
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Split for format
In the previous question I neglected to mention this refers to Publisher 2010!
- Split by Max Meng Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:43 AM Split for format
SSRS Report Double header issue
Context : Issue faced when an SSRS 2008 R2 Report is integrated with SharePoint 2010 (integrated mode)
Issue : Double headers being displayed in SharePoint in IE 8, IE 9, Mozilla 3.6, Chrome, Safari 4.0. (Requirement is that the Header has to remain visible while scrolling down the report)
Approach : Within SSRS, setting the fixed data property to 'True' – in 'Advanced Mode' of row groups. Once the report was developed, it was integrated with Sharepoint 2010 (integrated mode) using SSRS ReportViewer web-part. The SSRS ContentEditor webpart was used to show the Report title.
Steps followed within SSRS (in detail)
- In Design view, select the tablix data region. The Grouping pane displays row and column groups.
- On right side of the Grouping pane, click the down arrow, and then click Advanced. The Grouping pane displays static and dynamic tablix members for each group.
- In the Row Groups pane, click the static tablix member that you want to control. When you select a tablix member, the corresponding cell on the design surface is selected if possible. Not all tablix members have a corresponding visual element. The Properties pane displays the properties for the selected tablix member.
- Set the FixedData property to True.
- Preview the report. The column headings stay in view as you scroll down the report.
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Hi nagKal,
Thanks for your sharing. That's very helpful. Hope this can help other community members who face with the same problem.
Besides, I have changed the thread type to "General Discussion" due to the related forum policy.
If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know.
Regards,
Mike Yin
Mike Yin
TechNet Community Support
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Fake out a DFS Path on my local workstation?
Hello, I need to make the following DFS path:
Actually map to this UNC path:
\\server.domain.com\DFSLinkTarget\
I'm on a remote subnet and cannot access files through the DFS root path (referals are blocked from remote subnets), but I can access the files through the physical server share that the DFS linktarget points to.
I'm developing/testing an app that requires the use of the DFSRoot path, so I need to be able to map or redirect it locally on my workstation. I don't have the ability to make any changes on the server.
Any ideas?
UPDATE:
I was able to put together a solution that works. It's not the most obvious solution, but it gives me exactly what I'm looking for.
- Set up a hosts file entry to route back to my workstation - 127.0.0.1 DomainName
- Set up BackConnectionHostNames in registry - http://serverfault.com/questions/23823/how-to-configure-windows-machine-to-allow-file-sharing-with-dns-alias
- Set up SymLink evaluation - fsutil behavior set SymlinkEvaluation L2L:1 R2R:1 L2R:1 R2L:1
- Create a Share with the name of the DFSRoot
- Create a directory Symbolic Link under the DFSRoot Share that points to the remote server DFSLinkTarget folder.
Now I can effectively use the UNC path for file access, and I don't have to beg my domain admin to enable out of site referrals. This is only intended to be used for development and testing of applications, so if it has some shortcomings it's no big deal to me.
- Edited by ComputerFieldsInc_MSDN Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:55 PM Found a solution
- Changed type ComputerFieldsInc_MSDN Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:56 PM Found a solution
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Hi,
It could be caused if domain admin restricted users accessing namespace outsite. You need to confirm with the domain admin about this.
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Hi,
I am currently standing by for an update from you and would like to know how things are going. If you have any feedback, please let us know.
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Hello Niki,
I'm not sure what you're asking as far as an update is concerned. I have edited my original post to describe a solution I was able to develop and I am good to go.
Thanks.
Bill
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TROUBLESHOOTING: stopped-server (Event ID: 6311 and 6401): obsoletionlist.cpp(319): 0 is not a valid DN depth
All,
An issue has recently popped up in support. We have documented it on the following TechNet Wiki
TROUBLESHOOTING: stopped-server (Event ID: 6311 and 6401): http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/10930.troubleshooting-stopped-server-event-id-6311-and-6401.aspx
Let me know if you have any questions.
Tim (timmac@microsoft.com)
Timothy P Macaulay Security Identity Support Team at Microsoft timmac@microsoft.com
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I'm having this problem with a SQL Server MA, every time I run a Full Import or a FIFS it bombs with this error. Yesterday I restarted the services as mentioned and it appeared to fix the problem. Today I don't appear to be so lucky, several service restarts and server reboots and the problem persists.
I noticed this mentioned at the bottom of the wiki.
Another possible item to check, is for any failed .NET Updates ( patches ) that may have happend during a Windows Update Services install
What do you mean check for failed .NET Updates?. We're using Win2008 R2 SP1(64bit) and FIM 2010 R2 Version: 4.1.2273.0.
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I'm having the same issue at a customer site with the FIM Service MA. After a sync service restart, I can do one full sync. After that, I get the stopped-server error. The delta sycs and exports still run fine. I have tried some of the PowerShell scripts to verify the account SID and everything looks fine.
This customer is on: FIM version 4.0.3606.2
Mark Creekmore - BlueVault Software http://www.bluevaultsoftware.com
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Well, it was worth a try. It didn't seem to help anything.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Mark
Mark Creekmore - BlueVault Software http://www.bluevaultsoftware.com
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All,
There appears to be something wrong with this update 2. I just recently updated to version 4.0.3606.2 to address some AD Recycle Bin issues and I am seeing the same issues. In my case, the issue is occurring on a file-based MA. I only do a Full Import and Full Synchronization from this MA since day one. When I start the run profile I noticed that the MA is reporting Full Import and Delta Synchronization. I went into the run profile, created a new step and removed the old one. I also restarted the Sync service for good measure. This allowed me to run the expected Full Import and Full Synchronization once and then it reverted back to trying a delta.
fr3dd
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Hotfix 4.0.3627.2 fixed our issue. Ask your PSS for it. KB2737503
I apologize...edited Hotfix number to reflect correct version. This hotfix is for FIM 2010 NON R2
- Edited by gdtilghman Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:02 PM
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Hotfix 4.1.3627.2 fixed our issue. Ask your PSS for it. KB2737503Is there any more information on this available from an official perspective, or was this just incidental?
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I was face same with ADMA. I delete the connector space from the ADMA then sync the objects again and It works for me.
you can also try this after taking the backup of both DB Fimservice,FIMSynchronizationService.
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I noticed a stopped server exception when exporting to a SQL MA.
It exported the first 15 of 200 and then raised error and stopped server.
Restarting server, importing SQL MA and retrying the export succeeded in exporting all changes.
I thought it was us and our Sync Rule provisioning to a Table with an IDENTITY ID column name, but it seems to be more universal a problem.
We use FIM 2010 R2 RTM
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sharepoint check-in /check-out operations on search
from search results we can only download the documents .
can we perform check-in /check option with documents of search results .
Regards Manjula
- Edited by Manjula_TechV Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:11 AM
sometimes workflow not starting when new item created by end user in sharepoint 2010
I have an issue with a SharePoint 2010 workflow
i have triggered the workflow when new item is created in the form library
sometimes workflow not starting when new item created by end user
please help me
thanks a lot in advance....
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Hi
which type of user?
System Account will never start automatically the workflow
Or , the user doesn't have proper rights to excute workflow steps
Romeo Donca, Orange Romania (MCSE, MCITP, CCNA) Please Mark As Answer if my post solves your problem or Vote As Helpful if the post has been helpful for you.
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HI...
I mention in question itself (trying from end user not system account)
I have attached the image now you can clearly understand my question..
I'm verified in workflow history also the remaining items workflow not started not error in logs too..
Totally the item workflow was disappeared and i cant start workflow manually..
In my development machine i did't configure any AAM(Alternate Access Mapping) too, I dont know why Im facing this Issues.......
pls let me help it out from this issues..
Thanks
Naveen Kumar
navi
- Edited by naveensp Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:37 AM
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Borrar backups antiguos de Windows Server Backups
Melvintt
MCTS, Windows Server 2008 R2: Network Infrastructure
MCTS, Windows Server 2008 R2: Active Directory, Configuring
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Hi,
Please ask in your local language forum, our forum is only supported for english thread, thanks for your understanding.
Best regards,
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Two Contrasting Design Approaches (Part 2)
Part 1 is at http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-SG/w8itprogeneral/thread/7f0d9246-538a-41e3-b3c4-83f1f99d20af.
Steve Jobs said something like users do not know what they want or what they need. He then went on to force through drastic UI changes which existing users do not even dreamed of and produced a couple of items which became big hits.
Microsoft took the opposite approach. They put telemetry on some dumb users (see Part 1) and were so excited by the surprising results they collected (see Sinofsky's description), and they came up with the Modern UI, formerly known as Metro, where to read the time, six digits of information, would require the full glory of 1920x1080 pixels.
I rest my case.
- Changed type Juke Chou Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:22 AM
microsoft Fix it no working
- Moved by Vicky SongMicrosoft employee Friday, August 31, 2012 3:13 AM Not a specific issue (From:Visual Studio Team System - Testing)
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I'd ask them here.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista
Regards, Dave Patrick ....
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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Two Contrasting Design Approaches (Part 1)
From the end of the last century, I have noticed that PC display sizes have grown (and shrunk) along these lines:
- 640x480
- 800x600
- 1024x768
- 1280x800
- 1280x1024
- 1600x900
- 1366x768
- 1680x1050
- 1920x1080
Over this same period, I have stood behind many many people helping them with their computers, first on Windows 95 and now Windows 7. Most of them are not using Windows as a windowing platform. They have the window in focus maximized, blocking all other windows. In effect, they are using Windows as a multi-tasking DOS computer, one full screen at a time. Every time they switch, they would move one hand away from the keyboard (a few know about Alt-tab), look for the mouse, and spend some time searching the Taskbar for the window they want to launch. If they need to share information across windows, their brain was the clipboard. They will have to remember something in the head and switch to the new window to compare.
So, in the beginning, about 30% of the screens of these users was occupied by white space. As hardware technology improved, the percentage of white space grew bigger. So now, most of these people have >90% of their screens permanently occupied with white space.
Part 2 is here, but if anyone thinks that all the increased pixels that came out of the expensive research laboratories are meant to be saturated white do speak up.
20% Discount off SelfTest Software Expires Thursday
SelfTest Software is now offering a 20% Back-to-School discount off downloadable practice tests. The coupon code is STSBACK2SCHOOL, and the offer expires this Thursday, 9/6/2012.
Between MeasureUp and SelfTest, I generally prefer SelfTest, but they never seem to offer the big discounts (up to 50% off) that MeasureUp offers.
Since I've been purchasing from these two vendors, this is probably the largest discount I've seen from SelfTest, so you might want to take advantage of it while you can.
I'd like to know how the MS Developers feel about Metro.
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I'm a Microsoft developer and I could not be more happier with W8 and the new modern UI. I think people like you are completely missing the point. The modern UI is not intended to remove or replace the desktop. It's there currently to complement it and to provided the structure to develop for tablets (touch) devices. To allow a user to use the familiar Windows across all their devices from desktop, tablets and even down to phones.
If you've been a gadget user over the years then you know how terrible older version of Windows is on those devices. Trying to drag windows around with your finger on the older touch screen devices was horrific. Trying to hit that 4x4 pixel delete "x" in chrome on a touch screen is just frustrating. However the modern UI application still work great with mouse and keyboard.
Basically you still get all the power of the desktop with this new refreshing UI. I've been using W8 ever since the Developer release at Build. I was at Build and was able to get my hands on the first developer tablets. Actually I still have it and use it when I workout. I guess what I'm saying in that I am extremely excited in the new UI and see the potential that is there. I by no means think it will ever replace the desktop. The desktop has it's place and I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. The new modern UI is not a replacement for the desktop.
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If you've been a gadget user over the years then you know how terrible older version of Windows is on those devices. Trying to drag windows around with your finger on the older touch screen devices was horrific. Trying to hit that 4x4 pixel delete "x" in chrome on a touch screen is just frustrating. However the modern UI application still work great with mouse and keyboard.
I'm not a gadget user or maybe I need a definition. "Gadget" being tablets, smart phones, touch screen or "Gadgets" being like live tiles, widgets and such on a desktop.
I'm a Microsoft developer and I could not be more happier with W8 and the new modern UI. I think people like you are completely missing the point. The modern UI is not intended to remove or replace the desktop. It's there currently to complement it and to provided the structure to develop for tablets (touch) devices. To allow a user to use the familiar Windows across all their devices from desktop, tablets and even down to phones.
You mean "people like you" being 100 percent of the current Windows User base.
" modern UI is not intended to remove or replace the desktop"
But it did.
" allow a user to use the familiar Windows across all their devices from desktop, tablets and even down to phones."
I use a truck (desktop) when I need to multitask and take the Car (touch interface) when I need to do simple, one window tasks.
The iPad has been out for a few years but Apple didn't revamp the Desktop UI to match it.
Thanks for the response.
- Edited by Developer_46038 Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:45 PM
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I'm not a gadget user or maybe I need a definition. "Gadget" being tablets, smart phones, touch screen or "Gadgets" being like live tiles, widgets and such on a desktop.
" modern UI is not intended to remove or replace the desktop"
But it did.
" allow a user to use the familiar Windows across all their devices from desktop, tablets and even down to phones."
I use a truck (desktop) when I need to multitask and take the Car (touch interface) when I need to do simple, one window tasks.
When I say gadget I mean electronic gadgets like convertibles PCs, tablets, phones, etc.
The modern UI has not replace the desktop for I have used it for the last almost year and I continue to use it every day in W8. Not only that but this is where I spend 99% of my time being that I'm a developer. Visual studios is not a modern UI app. SQL Management tools is not a modern UI. These application must run on the desktop therefore modern UI has not replace the desktop.
Yes use a truck (desktop) and a car (tablets) when they make sense. However there no reason they should not operate the same. Both have the same interfaces that contain a steering wheel, brake pedals and gas pedals.
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I think the most important thing to remember is that this is Windows Re-Imagined. It's not supposed to be the same Windows that been released throughout the years. It's like when I first started using W95 I really thought the mouse was ridiculous and that it'd never work. Now let's put it in context. I had been been using DOS at this point without ever using Win3.1. I just thought Win3.1 was useless overhead. When 95 came out it was just amazing but I had to get over the fact that I had to use a mouse. Now looking back that just sounds silly but that was the transition.
I guess I've learn over the years that computing is going to change. I've learn to attempt to embrace the change and look at why the change was made rather than if I like it or not. They're are a lot of smart people working at Microsoft and they have done a lot of research. I don't think they made the changes lightly. I'm sure every decision was thought out and giving much consideration. This is one of their flagship product with hundreds of million users over all versions of Windows. If they mess up they know it will cost them but they also know if they don't progress it would be just as dangerous.
We all have to agree that times are changing. The huge powerful PC isn't as popular as it once was because tablets today are more powerful that the huge power PC of previous years. There comes a point when the power of a device hits a wall that is well just enough. There no need for more GHZ, processors and such. I'm not saying that the power PC with more GHZ and processors isn't a great thing and really important but it's not to the average consumer. I think computing power has passed the limit that is required by the average consumer. This means the form factors will start changing. Focus on screens, portability and battery life have become more important than cores and speed because we already have that.
OK now I'm rambling. What I'm saying is times change and so do we. I think the modern UI is a great addition to Windows. It will not (at least at the moment) replace the desktop. Will it in the future? Maybe but who knows what we'll be doing 5-10 years down the road. When I started computing with DOS I would have never imagine sitting here just 15 years later with a touch screen phone that is 1000x more powerful than my PC with always connected internet. Just imagine where we will be in 15 more years.
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I can't speak as a developer, I'm an IT Professional and Application Analyst, but I have mixed feelings on the new Metro/Modern interface.
I think it works great for tablets and touchscreens, but is cumbersome for computers without touchscreens and use the traditional keyboard/mouse. This is especially true if you have a large monitor. The Start Screen feels inefficient on a 23 or 27" monitor. I'm a heavy multitasker, so I feel I need to stick to the traditional desktop more. I'm also not sure why the next version of the Windows Server needs to use the Start Screen. Make it optional. Having two dozen windows open isn't uncommon for me.
It's mentioned that MS doesn't want to replace the Desktop with Metro, but it seems to me that they are. They are downplaying the desktop in 8 and RT.
Retraining users to use the Metro interface is going to be a big undertaking, and going to cost any company a lot of money. This is especially true for a lot of users who always try their best to restore the 'classic' Windows interface/layout as much as possible whenever they are upgraded to a new version of Windows. I know a lot of people are doing that when our company upgraded them from XP to 7. I bet most businesses will just continue to upgrade to 7 and wait 8 out.
I haven't even started to look into scripting with Metro.
Ultimately I like that MS is working to re-imagine Windows and create a platform that is both powerful and touch-friendly for tablets, I just wish that there was more customization options to help make it more usable on traditional desktops/laptops or allow IT departments to deploy a "classic-themed" version.
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Ive been trying the Windows 8 for a few days now, and i get that its a new design and all, what i dont understand is why not atleast implement a feature to turn it off. Not everybody like the Aero in Win 7, but i didn matter much, cause the people who didn like it, could turn it off. I like the over all design of Win 8, just not the forced Metro App start screen, and not beeing able to simply turn that part of, and get the old start menu back.
I work with IT in a somewhat big company, with about 12k users, and i think win 8 would be great, cause it seems to be faster and less demanding than Win 7, but i very much fear what the Metro UI will do to the users, since i know how much they all ready hate to many big changes when it comes to the software they use.
all in all alot of people would be happy with a turn metro ui features off implementet :)
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I can't speak as a developer, I'm an IT Professional and Application Analyst, but I have mixed feelings on the new Metro/Modern interface.
I think it works great for tablets and touchscreens, but is cumbersome for computers without touchscreens and use the traditional keyboard/mouse. This is especially true if you have a large monitor. The Start Screen feels inefficient on a 23 or 27" monitor. I'm a heavy multitasker, so I feel I need to stick to the traditional desktop more. I'm also not sure why the next version of the Windows Server needs to use the Start Screen. Make it optional. Having two dozen windows open isn't uncommon for me.
It's mentioned that MS doesn't want to replace the Desktop with Metro, but it seems to me that they are. They are downplaying the desktop in 8 and RT.
Retraining users to use the Metro interface is going to be a big undertaking, and going to cost any company a lot of money. This is especially true for a lot of users who always try their best to restore the 'classic' Windows interface/layout as much as possible whenever they are upgraded to a new version of Windows. I know a lot of people are doing that when our company upgraded them from XP to 7. I bet most businesses will just continue to upgrade to 7 and wait 8 out.
I haven't even started to look into scripting with Metro.
Ultimately I like that MS is working to re-imagine Windows and create a platform that is both powerful and touch-friendly for tablets, I just wish that there was more customization options to help make it more usable on traditional desktops/laptops or allow IT departments to deploy a "classic-themed" version.
First, it is important to understand that "Metro/Modern/Whatever" is not an just an interface. Programs written to it are written to the WinRT API, not the Win32 API. In essence, it is the front end of the portable OS that is in the heart and the core of Win8. To be certain WinRT e/devolved from Win32, but programs written to Win32 are not compatible with programs to WinRT. Thus, if you develop a "Metro/WinRT program", it will run on Win8 (but not in the desktop mode of Win8), it would run in Windows RT (what is running in the ARM-based tablets), but it will not run in Win7 or any other previous version of Windows. In its core, Win8 is incompatible with previous Windows versions (thus, the desktop mode).
Of course, one can "Metrofy" desktop programs but, as in the case of Office 2013, the results are not really very good and they do not mesh up well with the rest of the applications. For example, Office 2013 automatically turns off Aero (or does not conform to it) in Win7. The windows are not transparent, and there is a great deal of "whiteness" to it that is, after some use, boring and bland.
According to Sinofski, developers who would be developing "Metro/WinRT" applications would have their programs run in Win8 (non-existent market at this time) and in Windows RT (the OS of the ARM-based tablets which is really Win8 minus an open desktop mode; projections about the eventual size of that market vary dramatically at this time). These "Metro/WinRT" apps will be incompatible with Win7, Vista or WinRT; they can only be installed in Win8 through the Windows Marketplace (thus, developers must submit them to Microsoft for approval; Microsoft would take 30% of revenue until 25,000 copies of the app have been sold; after that, Microsoft's cut will be 20%). In essence, these "Metro/WinRT" apps (which would be full screen and non-multitasking) would live in an ecosystem identical to that of Apple's iOS and iTunes.
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I'm a Microsoft developer and I could not be more happier with W8 and the new modern UI. I think people like you are completely missing the point. The modern UI is not intended to remove or replace the desktop. It's there currently to complement it and to provided the structure to develop for tablets (touch) devices. To allow a user to use the familiar Windows across all their devices from desktop, tablets and even down to phones.
I know that you are singing this tune for ever, but this is not what Microsoft and Sinofski are preaching. Maybe you should consult with Microsoft. Sinofski clearly states that all development from now on should be in WinRT (because programs written to it would run in all of Microsoft's "modern" platforms - just not all the previous Windows versions). Microsoft has termed the desktop as "legacy" (and we all know what happens to "legacy". You should not attempt to deceive here. You know pretty well that if WindowsRT takes off and Win8 is a success, the desktop mode would be dropped like a dead carcass because Microsoft would like to enhance its income by selling (a) apps through its Windows Marketplace and (b) subscriptions for more demanding computing (see Office 365); Microsoft has a strong bias against the desktop for all the "right" (lots of money) reasons. It may survive with restrictions in Win9 but my guess is that it would be gone for good by Win10 (about 6 years from now). It people want to utilize complex programs, they would have to get subscriptions from Microsoft or Adobe (or other entrants);
Of course, if Win8 and WindowsRT fail, then Microsoft may return to the desktop and the enterprise. For the time being, MS has developed a strong "consumer" orientation and even strongly supports and promotes the "consumerization of IT". Did you miss Microsoft's position paper on this??? How's that?? They have also released quite a number of little videos on this. Here is some of them:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/video/microsoft-cio-talks-about-the-consumerization-of-it-at-microsoft
Microsoft's focus and model right now is Apple's iPad. To even try to imply otherwise is a misdirection
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Ive been trying the Windows 8 for a few days now, and i get that its a new design and all, what i dont understand is why not atleast implement a feature to turn it off.
It is very simple. Microsoft cannot allow you to turn off "Metro/WinRT". In the first place, it is really the core of Win8 and it runs what you used to associate as Windows only as an application (the desktop). Then, if you turn off the Start Screen and work only in the desktop, how would Microsoft be able to sell you all these "nice" (full-screen, non-multitasking) Metro/WinRT apps????
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They won't sell them. People will jump to a Mac. I am dreading the day when my mom or dad tries to upgrade and they access me where the chat is in Facebook or why can't they go to some page that is running flash. And worst of all when they ask me where their favorites went and I have to explain that MS found it a necessity to build two different Internet Explorers into it and they need to go to the desktop and run IE from there.
I could swear that when I tried to use the desktop IE that my favorites weren't synced to SkyDrive like every other machine I have does.
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They won't sell them. People will jump to a Mac. I am dreading the day when my mom or dad tries to upgrade and they access me where the chat is in Facebook or why can't they go to some page that is running flash. And worst of all when they ask me where their favorites went and I have to explain that MS found it a necessity to build two different Internet Explorers into it and they need to go to the desktop and run IE from there.
I could swear that when I tried to use the desktop IE that my favorites weren't synced to SkyDrive like every other machine I have does.
Well, this may be so, but you underestimate the degree to which people are captives of 20 years of Microsoft OSes. Microsoft would not have attempted to ram this down its current user base if it did not think that it could get away with it. Most people simply lack the courage and the determination to move to another platform. They will make some noise, and then they will just move on to use whatever is provided and try to paper over the problems with other solutions.
In the beginning, only a few will stray away. Now, if Dell or HP puts together a number of desktops and laptops running a nice Linux 3.3 distro with Win7 running under VMware Workstation 8 and this arrangement is as inexpensive (or as expensive) as Microsoft driven solutions, then, you may have some transition out of the Microsoft camp (of course, Microsoft may refuse to even support such an arrangement, which will shut it down right away). Otherwise, most users lack the expertise to escape on their own. They will take the Microsoft medicine and they will be thankful.
Since what you have in Win8 is really two OSes bolted together (in an imperfect union), the presence of two browsers was inescapable. The target for Microsoft would be to shed the "legacy" code (the desktop) as quickly as possible and move to clean WinRT supported OS (which what Windows RT really is). Moving to ARM designs will make this arrangement more proprietary.
At the end, the users really would not need to move to OSX and iOS. They would get from Microsoft exactly the same arrangement (the same "walled garden").
- Edited by ADRz Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:33 PM
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In essence, these "Metro/WinRT" apps (which would be full screen and non-multitasking) would live in an ecosystem identical to that of Apple's iOS and iTunes.
Wrong! I've explained this to you before. WinRT (Modern UI) applications are capable of multitasking. One is that WinRT applications can be multi-threaded therefore doing multiple task at once. Also from the UI perspective can be 1/3, 2/3 or full screen. You can have two WinRT apps running on one screen hence you are multi-tasking.
If you have two monitors you can have 2 WinRT applications (one at 2/3 and one at 1/3) on one monitor and the desktop on the other. You can multi-task to your hearts desire.
- Edited by Bobby J Cannon Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:59 PM
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I wish you would gets some courage and switch to another platform (linux, OSX or anything). That way you'd have no reason to be in these forums. :)Most people simply lack the courage and the determination to move to another platform.
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Do you manage to remain serious while posting this? Even Windows 1.0 was more capable than this!!! I am astonished that you even propose these for serious considerations (by the way, I did actually run Windows 1.0!!! It could fit much more than 2 apps in the screen (even though we had tiny screens then and of low resolution; Now, everybody has 21 inch monitors or higher!!!) I would be embarassed to o even suggest these "forced" capabilities seriously, after 30 years of development in Windows. I cannot really believe that you seriously posted this. Was it supposed to be funny?In essence, these "Metro/WinRT" apps (which would be full screen and non-multitasking) would live in an ecosystem identical to that of Apple's iOS and iTunes.
Wrong! I've explained this to you before. WinRT (Modern UI) applications are capable of multitasking. One is that WinRT applications can be multi-threaded therefore doing multiple task at once. Also from the UI perspective can be 1/3, 2/3 or full screen. You can have two WinRT apps running on one screen hence you are multi-tasking.
If you have two monitors you can have 2 WinRT applications (one at 2/3 and one at 1/3) on one monitor and the desktop on the other. You can multi-task to your hearts desire.
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Another week of trying this OS and I am still pissed off. So I can't get my printer to work. I'm ok with that. I'll give MS until October. But when I searched add printer and got to the device screen there is no way to get the f@#k out of it. Escape doesn't take me back nor does backspace or the back button on my mouse. I really hope the UI team is working 24/7 to put some intuitiveness into the interface before go live.
ADR, I think China is calling you back to lead the socialist movement. "Take the Microsoft medicine and be thankful" what a moron you are. Isn't MS tired of "A few will stray away" this latest attempt is going to cause a mass migration. I've been working with GUIs and reporting for 12 years now and this is an abomination.
I want my X back.- Edited by Developer_46038 Monday, September 3, 2012 5:31 PM
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@Developer_46038,
You're just not going to like it. Frankly, after 2 weeks...I don't like it either. The ability to not windows Metro apps (other than the craptastic 25/75 view) has to be one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen. Multiple monitors don't help...and actually makes things worse as trying to hit the hot corners becomes a juggling act. There is no way any CFO, developer, or sys admin (or other power users) worth their grain of salt is going to find a single view windows acceptable. I live by having multiple things open at once and am 10x more efficient working outside of the Metro limitations. As an aside, looking at the RT reviews from Ed Bott and such trying run Office on the new touchscreens seems like an exercise in complete frustration....takes 10x longer to create content. Bottom line - If you hate your executives...give them a Windows RT device without a keyboard....and watch the mayhem ensue.
Don't know if you've noticed the Metro taskbar and the desktop taskbar are also completely separate...which is aggravating. I'm also finding things like the indexing doesn't work with Office 2010 anymore...which means I can't search my e-mails like I used to in Windows 7. The color scheme reminds me of the old Prodigy internet that used to exist in the early 90's (big chunky graphics not meant for today's displays). All in all...everything seems more difficult....no matter how hard Microsoft keeps telling me I just need to "get used to it". I keep having to stop what I'm doing and think about how I get Metro to do what I want...which is really about the most devastating thing an OS can do...which is to keep getting in my way of getting things done.
I'm about to go back to Windows 7 myself....which I suggest you do as well. Windows 8 seems designed for people with light computing needs who like to do 1 thing at a time...like just browse the Internet...maybe write a resume...or use it to play some songs. That's a perfectly acceptable solution for some users. For power users, Windows 8 is a cruel joke IMO. There is no way I would recommend this to Enterprise customers either....as there just isn't a good ROI for all the hassle.
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Report : 326 Summary compliance for a configuration item by computer
I find this report useful.
However, there appears to be a situation that occurs that will prevent the report from completing.
The report depends on a view (v_CIRelation_All) which is a recursive query against an underlying table CI_ConfigurationItems.
Under at least the following conditions v_CIRelation_All will return many millions of records and thusly report 326 will timeout and fail.
1. You are running SCCM Sp1 R2
2. You have the SCCM controlled WSUS handing out FCS definitions (or you are at least syncing defintion information from WSUS to SCCM)
3. A number of CI_ConfigurationItems are type 8 (Bundles) some of which have expired, but many are related to each other.
Here's what I have been doing to eleviate the symptoms. (Try this at your own risk of course)
Delete all definition related bundles that are expired.
One method is to run this as a sql task or from withing sql manager:
Update dbo.CI_ConfigurationItems Set IsTombstoned = 1 where CIType_ID = 8 and IsExpired = 1 and CI_UniqueID in (Select CI_UniqueID from v_UpdateInfo Where Title Like '%definition%')
Of course, backup your database and ensure its successful prior to trying a procedure such as this.
If someone has a better solution or knows the ramifications of changing the v_CIRelation_All view instead of deleting records, it would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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We seem to have the same problem here - we cannot determine the reasons for the errors (using SCCM reports) due to this issue.
I have not yet dared apply Keith's potential fix ...
1. Get HTTP 500 error when running web report
2. Get timeout error when running report from Reporting Services in SCCM 2007 console:
"An error has occurred during report processing. (rsProcessingAborted)
- Query execution failed for dataset 'DataSet0'. (rsErrorExecutingCommand)
- Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding."
Report Name = "Summary compliance for a configuration item by computer"
Configuration Item Name = "FEP - Antimalware Status for Standard Desktops"
Task Manager on Site Server shows ~100% CPU (on one thread/cpu) when report/query is running.
Diags (from above post):
Query:
select COUNT(*) from dbo.CI_ConfigurationItems where CIType_ID = 8 and IsExpired = 1 and CI_UniqueID in (Select CI_UniqueID from v_UpdateInfo Where Title Like '%definition%')
Result:
43
Any ideas anyone?
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Also getting same error when running report using Configuration Item Name = "FEP - Antimalware Status (parent)"
- Edited by JHR42 Monday, September 3, 2012 8:32 PM Update
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Client not report status in server SCCM
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Hello Agerlund , thanks for help !
No .. is not necessary use Software Update Point !
Well, I will try explain my problem !
I configure SCCM 2007 R2 in server 2008 r2 , but no extend schema AD.... so its ok , When is start push installation in client ( agent) this installation is ok appears, but this client won´t report status for server SCCM with YES in my collection !
When i going in control panel this client in "configuration Manager properties" option components "ConfigMgr Inventory agent" status stay only "installed" and when I go for discover site code this generated error "Automatic site code discovery was unsuccessful"
You can help me !
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Client status has nothing to do with WSUS so your questions is a bit misleading.
If you haven't extended AD then you will need an SLP. Why not extend AD though?
Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com
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Hi Jason !
Thanks a lot for reply !
Well, This is enviromment that test, and won't like this change in AD !
But I know working now, I just change configuration in push installation I put this parameters SMSSITECODE=CCC SMSCACHESIZE=1000 SMSSLP=SERVERNAME .
Thanks again for help !
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