Outlook 2013 - Microsoft file attachments fail to open.
I started using Outlook 2013 and have found a bug with Microsoft attachments.
I receive 2 error messages when attempting to open or view attached files.
- When attempting to view the file within the message I receive the following error:
The file cannot be previewed because of an error with the following previewer:
Microsoft Excel Previewer
To open this file in its own program, double-click it.
- If I attempt to open the file I receive the following error:
Microsoft Excel cannot open or save any more documents because there is not enough available memory or disk space.
- To make more memory available, close workbooks, or other programs you no longer need.
- To free disk space, delete files you no longer need from the disk you are saving too.
- If I save the file and attempt to open it with Excel, or if I open Excel and open the file, I receive the following error:
Microsoft Excel cannot open or save any more documents because there is not enough available memory or disk space.
- To make more memory available, close workbooks, or other programs you no longer need.
- To free disk space, delete files you no longer need from the disk you are saving too.
The only solution I have found is to
- disable or take my printers off-line
- right click on the file and choose Quick Print
If I am fast enough I can click on File and save the file in a different format, which will allow for me to open it normally.
I need a solution for this problem, as I like using the Office 2013 suite.
- Moved by Max Meng Friday, September 7, 2012 1:28 AM duplicate with http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/officeitpropreview/thread/fc1ffb42-d6cd-4760-9116-5172febd4438 (From:Outlook IT Pro Discussions)
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Health Report for Windows Server 2012 Essentials - Now Available
- Edited by kariya21 Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:21 PM
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Where exactly do you install the plug in?
In what folder? Or does it not matter?
- Edited by Susan BradleyMVP Thursday, September 6, 2012 7:59 PM
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Phil P.S. If you find my comment helpful or if it answers your question, please mark it as such.
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My aol puts upa message---{LAUNCHER HAS ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM & NEEDS TO CLOSE--CONTACT MICROSOFT- I HAVE ABOUT 25 TIMES. I STILL GET THE MESSAGE
Email Delivery Diagnosis
I have checked, and the domains and IP address of the server are not blacklisted anywhere (that I can find).
I do not have the expertise to diagnose this problem, and Hostgator support is not able to solve it either.
- Edited by libra_ali786 Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:06 AM
- Changed type libra_ali786 Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:07 AM
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Can you confirm you have a reverse dns ptr record for your mail server?
http://mxtoolbox.com/ReverseLookup.aspx
James Chong MCITP | EA | EMA; MCSE | M+, S+ Security+, Project+, ITIL msexchangetips.blogspot.com
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Closing of sqlceResultSet object
Suppose I have following code:
private SqlCeResultSet rs;
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strSQL = "Select * from Employee";
cmd.CommandText = strSQL;
rs = cmd.ExecuteResultSet(ResultSetOptions.Updatable | ResultSetOptions.Scrollable);
strSQL = "Select * from EmployeeSalary";
cmd.CommandText = strSQL;
rs = cmd.ExecuteResultSet(ResultSetOptions.Updatable | ResultSetOptions.Scrollable);
rs.Close();
rs.Dispose();
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My question is, will there be an instance of rs remain in memory? As I am executing 'cmd.ExecuteResultSet' twice and closing 'rs' only once.
Thanks,
VG
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It won't be in memory anymore, but it will do no harm if you explicitely close the first resultset before assigning a new one to the same variable.
Whenever you want to check if a specific object is still in memory, you can use a memory profiler (even for Windows Mobile devices and the .NET Compact Framework), but beware that disposing does not release the object right way, it has to wait for the GC collect it and release it.
Alberto Silva Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development - http://msmvps.com/AlbertoSilva moving2u - R&D Manager - http://www.moving2u.pt
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Please mark as answer, if this was it. Visit my SQL Server Compact blog
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Windows 8 - Ideas...
My idea would be to remove the whole desktop...
With the new Metro UI, the desktop does not seem to fit in anymore(thats what i think thought).
Then replace it with something like this!
Having this as a "Start" screen and when you click the Windows logo in the middle, you access the Metro UI.
*Not sure if this have been mentioned before, but i mention it anyways ;)*
*This is because I want the new Windows 8 to become something fantastic!!!*
- Changed type PerFrederick Thursday, September 6, 2012 4:25 PM Not in the right forum
- Moved by Hemendra Agrawal Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:18 AM windows 8
How does SnapIn works if I have multi monitor setup? Will it be four applications running if I have two monitors?
Sunil
- Moved by Rob Caplan [MSFT]Microsoft employee Thursday, September 6, 2012 4:17 PM (From:Building Metro style apps with C# or VB )
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The Building Metro style apps with C# or VB forum is for discussion of writing new Windows Store apps.
For discussion or comments on using Windows 8 please post in the Windows 8 forum on http://answers.microsoft.com
Thanks,
Rob
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exchange in my lab
Hi all,
I would like to have a mess around with exchange 2010.
I have got a server with hyper-v installed. On the server i have two forests and each forest has got two domains. Each domain has a single DC. I did this when preparing for my MCITP ent admin exm, it was great for messing with forest trusts, dns etc etc.
I was just wondering if i could install and configure exchange into this setup? for example could i put exchange on a server in forest A and also on a server in forest B?
Currently my VMs do not have an internet connection, this is where it becomes a bit grey to me, does exchange need a working public ip / a record to work or can i use it in a lab environment?
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi,
It should not be problem to to install Exchange 2010 in each forest (A and B). Internet is not a necessity in a lab environment considering you don't want to test exchange external access, sending/receiving emails to/from outside your LAN etc. You don't need a public IP or public DNS record for Exchange 2010 to function internally within a forest.
Thanks,
Faisal.
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For exchange with no internet access.
Configuring Exchange Servers Without Internet Access
http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2010/05/14/3409948.aspx
Speed up Exchange Management Shell and Exchange Management Console in lab environment
http://terrytlslau.tls1.cc/2011/09/speed-up-exchange-management-shell-and.html
James Chong MCITP | EA | EMA; MCSE | M+, S+ Security+, Project+, ITIL msexchangetips.blogspot.com
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SQL From SPLA to Other License (open)
Hi all,
I need to change sql licensing mode, from SPLA to Open licence.
This is possible without reinstalling?
Thanks
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Hello,
Please see the following thread:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlsetupandupgrade/thread/36b11e6c-6a69-4105-a736-1edb6ce083c4/#97eebab9-1e89-49a7-a6e0-20c4d2f03cb9
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Alberto Morillo
SQLCoffee.com
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MY STORY: SNOM 870 IP PHONE UC (a.k.a. LYNC) EDITION: SHARING MY EXPERIENCE
Hello,
I would like to share my bad experience with SNOM 870 phone UC edition (a.k.a. supposed to work with Lync 2010 server environment). I got one cheap off eBay so I'm very happy that at least I did not loose any money on it as at the end I sold it and even made some profit.
So where I should begin? Probably from the bottom line: I still don't understand the concept behind Main Menu screen that is nothing but confusing and frustrating. Here is what you get when you boot your SNOM 870 UC edition phone and connect it to Lync 2010:
It is important to mention that this phone is not really designed for Lync IMHO. What they do is trying to make firmware work with Lync server. While all other manufacturers are already up-to-speed with Lync 2010 phone edition (Polycom CX600, Aastra 6725ip, HP 4120 etc.) SNOM phones are still in beta mode, still buggy and still don't look good.
Even though I was able to sign-in to Lync (and yes you need to access your phone from HTTP browser knowing phone's IP address and pre-set your username and password remotely) I was completely upset seeing the main menu trying to figure out how to use it. It is completely user-unfriendly I would say. Lots of square boxes (but they do not look like live tiles) and completely unclear what they do. Things like see photos or access your Exchange calendar - these things are not even there. Yes, you can make and receive calls. But you cannot see your status - Lync logo is not on this phone. Remember I said it was not designed for Lync?
What else? Well, unless somebody can convince me that this is the best Lync phone ever (and provide detailed and definitive proof that this is the case) - I will not recommend even trying this phone in Lync environment. Unless you are tired from everything else, have the all time in the world, and want actually discover things that you don't know yet. At least this was my experience, and this is what I feel.
Unfortunately I was not able to check SNOM 821 UC edition, maybe this phone is working better with Lync, I don't know. I was in touch with SNOM sales person who promised several times to send me free demo of SNOM 821 (refurbished or so) but this never happened. Sometimes I think that these guys making this phone just for fun and they are not really interested that people will buy this phone for Lync 2010.
Anyway, that's it. This is my story. If you have questions or can add anything - please don't hesitate to reply.
Thanks!
- Changed type Sharon.Shen Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:04 AM Not a question,sharing experience
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Hi,Lync15
Thanks for sharing your experience using SNOM for Lync,maybe you can write a blog post about the configuration and share us the link here.
Regards,
Sharon
Sharon Shen
TechNet Community Support
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Well, for me it was not much configuration. All I did is went to the phone WEB page (sounds weird, eh?) and configured Identity 1 with my login credentials to Lync server. They have up to 16 credentials to configure and then I guess you can switch them, but in my mind this is big no-no and super-unsecure. Even with one remembered credentials if the phone is stolen or sold without making reset it will work from anywhere in the world until user changes password. So 16 remembered credentials I think is a big mistake.
There are plenty of articles in the Internet that shows the configuration page of this phone, I'm just attaching one picture I found on the Internet below.
My bottom line: yeah, it is different phone. Does it mean it is good? I don't think so. Instead of focusing on business and do things quick, with this phone you need to learn a lot, and I personally don't like this interface (and I'm a Lync phones fan from day one).
I guess that's it for now.
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Hi Lync15,
well, I agree with you, but that is the reason why the SNOM 870 is not on the Microsofot Compatible IP Phones Tested and Qualified for Lync :-)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lync/gg278172
If a post is helpful, please take a second to hit the green arrow on the left, or mark as answer, thanks.
Jean-Philippe Breton | Senior Microsoft Consultant | MCTS, MCITP, MCT, Lync MVP
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With snom Lync Qualified devices and fw 8.8.1.11 you can use Pin authentication. (so no web UI config then, just type into pin from phone screen like LPE) (this requires DHCP setup, just like LPE) Also, remember that LYnc can do snom UC Edition firmware updates in same manner as LPE.
On complaint about web UI: Do remember that the LPE (lync phone edition) has no web UI and basically this means there is no way to remotely set many user preferences on the phone: ringer tone, whether phone beep-beeps on 2nd call, music on hold etc etc. (so if you want to mass set the ringer tone for LPE, sorry pal! ;-) Also, remember that Polycom Lync Qualified devices use WebUI as well. Polycom Lync devices initial config is more complex involving importing cert and config.xml, (so maybe we better be thankful ;-)
On the 12 identities: just don't use them. ;-) 1 identity is all it takes! ;-) as I've recieved used/refurbished Lync Phone Edition devices with credentials typed in!)
snom devices have their share of challenges, as do Lync Phone Edition devices. (not saying either is bad, just select to fill your needs) Below is some challenges that can be encountered with LPE devices in specific scenarios:
http://windowspbx.blogspot.com/2012/07/feedback-from-field-challenges.html
Some snom UC Edition challenges I would mention:
-No "better together" experience
-Would be nice to have Lync provision user preferences centrally (but in fairness, LPE itself doesn't even have this)
My suggestion is to evaluate the various Lync devices and select the one that most closely fits your needs. Make use of your valued Lync consultant to help you.
+Say thanks and observe basic forum courtesy:
+If this post answered your question, Mark As Answer
+If this post was helpful, Vote as Helpful
windowspbx blog: my thots/howtos
see/submit Lync suggestions here: simple and public
- Edited by Matt LandisMVP Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:51 PM
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Lync15, I read your post and appreciate your feedback. I would encourage you to try one of our current snom UC edition phones that are qualified for Lync - including the snom 821 with our "Apollo" UC edition firmware as well as the snom 300 and snom 370 UC edition phones. We have received great feedback about these phones from the reseller community who have deployed then with Microsoft Lync so I would start there. These snom UC edition phones have been tested by Microsoft 's Lync team in order to achieve their qualification.
Based on your post, it also sounds like you have some outstanding questions that require answers - we are happy to walk you through the steps for set-up and configuration of snom UC phones with MSFT Lync. In addition, we can connect you to one of our certified distributors if you need to procure a snom 821 UC edition for yourself.
Thanks
Paul Jamieson
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After migration to SBS 2011 error 8196 in GPO
Hi everyone, after completed the migration to SBS 2011 I've got problems on deploying some GPO. Using Group Policy Management I can see that the error are related to 'Deployed printer connections', 'Group policy drive maps', 'Group policy internet settings' and checking Event Viewer I've found some events with ID 8196, each realated to GPO listed before.
I've got no idea, I've googled but all the solutions found didn't solved that problems.
Any idea?!?
Thanks
FABIO
Acco
- Changed type Sean Zhu - Friday, September 14, 2012 8:38 AM
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Hi Fabio
ID 8196 is useful info, but what is the "actual problem" you are experiencing? Are the GPOs not being deployed? Or are they being deployed but not taking effect? What GPOs are they anyway, standard SBS GPOs or custom ones?
Can you look at rsop,msc on one of the affected clients and see what's taking effect?
Jim
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Hi Jim, thanks for your reply. The actual problem is that the users, which should have the GPO applied (I think to mapped drives or automatically find the printers deployed by the server) don't have any, no mapped drives, no printers so I think the GP rules are not taking effects.
To give you more info as possible the server is a new SBS 2011, migrated from a previous SBS 2008, the clients that have this problem are all Windows 7 Pro 32bit (connected via 'http://connect' wizard).
I've tried to create a new user, binding to OU like the old users, but the issue manifest again.
The GPOs that manifest the problem are custom rules. I'll try 'rsop.msc' in a couple of hours (when office will be close) on one client then I let you know.
Thanks again
Acco
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Microsoft Apps missing in Windows 8
I am dumbfounded that Microsoft has not included their own apps in the app store.
My first surprise was that the Media Center was missing. Not being ready, I guess is a good reason.
But what about Skype? It's a very popular and useful app and should be tested during this "break in period" for Window 8.
Any more surprises?
Jerry
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Blogging about Windows for IT pros at www.theexperienceblog.com
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SSP - User Confusion
OK so confused users is almost the norm, but I'd be interested to get some views here on how your users are accepting the new SSP.
For us it has been a big improvement on what was on offer from 2010, but it's still causing some real issues for users wanting to make requests. We have specific Service Offerings for different areas, with related Request Offerings, and to us it looks pretty intuitive, but...
Common complaints/issues we're getting are:
- Too many clicks to get to a form
- Users tend to just use the generic "Create Request", because it's easier and quicker
- Service Offerings look a like FAQs which confuses the user when wanting to report a fault
- Request offerings on the Service Offering page don't stand out due to font size, so users get lost
- Users tend to miss the "Go To Form" button due to place on page, and just stare at the "Related Request Offerings" list
I know some of this is just a learning curve, and eventually they'll get on with it. But I can also sympathize with why their struggling to use it; it is clicky, the font sizes are questionable, and that "Create A Request" button immediately there in front of you is very convenient. Although the Silverlight webpart makes the SSP look pretty slick, it does however add it's own tight restrictions on what can be changed.
Open to any suggestions on how we can make our SSP more accessible to our users :-)
Andrew France - http://andrewsprivatecloud.wordpress.com
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Hi Andrew,
You can remove the generic Create Request button if you like and you may also change colors and fonts. Just edit the webpart within SharePoint.
Regards
//Anders
Anders Asp | Lumagate | www.lumagate.com | Sweden | My blog: www.scsm.se
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Oh man... can I tell you some of our issues??!!!
I have built a solution for a client that allows them to advertise a Windows 7 upgrade Request Offering with custom available dates and various other selectable options. All up, we had to send the user the direct URL to the custom request offering, just to ensure that they can make it to the request page. Issues experienced included:
- NO SCROLLBARS!! ---- 9000 users targeted and over half of them have issue with 768 high screens!!! Thank goodness a solution came our way but the "damage" was already done.
- Limited options for control layouts - We managed to change the number of questions and controls per page to 2 per page to make it easier for the end-user. They still get it wrong!
- SPEED!!! -- Or the lack there of. This is not a WAN solution.
- The silly "Next" link under a list that does not have multiple pages?? User clicking away to try get to the next page....not good and no way to disable it.
- Minimal customization options - One little image? Is that all I can add / change
- The entire process of managing Request Offerings is quite cumbersome when dealing with temporary Request Offerings in a solution such as this.
Our solution is in an clients are booking in their upgrades but it has been a nightmare navigating the obstacles and limited capabilities of the standard SSP. I have become a big fan of SCSM and I hope that this gets a bit more attention going forward. Simple things like allowing me to have the check-box for a Boolean question next it instead of on top of it?
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Thanks Anders, that could be a very useful thing to do for the moment.
@Dean, Thanks for sharing, I think you've just added some to my list that I had forgotten :-) Definitely the placement of the Next button and vertical scroll bars.
I really hope this gets developed further, and it is a giant leap forward from what it was.
But like I've mentioned in previous posts, we use InfoPath here, which creates highly dynamic, flexible, user friendly forms, and going from that to SCSM Request Offerings is like night and day. Although they both come from Microsoft.
It has the potential to be great, and although I kinda like the Silverlight feel, i do think it needs to go. It's far too slow and restrictive to be used in a service desk, where let's face the user wants to spend the least amount of time possible in.
I'd prefer to see a custom skinned Sharepoint site, that has separate custom WebParts for Service Offerings, Request Offerings, Announcements, and Knowledge Articles. The end user can then build their service desk up to how they want it to look. From Service Offering to submitting a Form for a common printer fault takes a user at least 5 clicks, not including scanning the page for each step. You can create a link that'll take you straight to a Request Offering page, but you still have to click Go To Form.
Andrew France - http://andrewsprivatecloud.wordpress.com
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I agree with you. I don't mean to sound like I hate it but it is only when you start using it in productions and stepping slightly out of the norm that you start to see where it falls short. Let's hope it gets the attention it deserves.
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Andrew France - http://andrewsprivatecloud.wordpress.com
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Doesnt make sense
Ok I know windows 8 gave us some new apps to use but they are crap compared to the previous apps that windows gave us by default. Why make the user open up an app that has less functionality then the older generation. For example the picture app can not scroll through a list of pictures in a folder where the default windows photo viewer will allow me to open up the majority of the files and skip through them. Another app called Video doesn't have support for AVI files vs windows media player does. Also when is Microsoft going to start supporting MKV file types? When is the general user going to get an app that will read a dump file and be able to see what dll caused the problem? Windows 8 is a step up in some cases but in most other cases for the general user I expect windows 8 to fall very short.
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I know they are still there... It just makes no sense for the applications that have less functionality to be the default applications.
And I have a question. In windows 8 RC i was able set the transparency on my window borders but now that is gone. Does anyone have any idea why this has disappeared?
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Wish: ZOOM function in HTML Help Viewer
Not really know where I should post this, so I put it here.
With screen resolution get higher and higher (but physical dimension not necessarily following the same growth rate), CHM content is getting harder and harder to read: characters are as small as an ant (well, to be honest, they are even smaller than normal ants!)
So it would be nice if a "ZOOM" function is implemented in "HTML Help Viewer" (and hopefully for all supported versions of Windows).
And please separate its zoom value from the zoom value of IE.
As a matter of fact, my HTML Help Viewer in Win7 is still showing
HTML Help Control Version 6.1
Copyright 1995-2002 Microsoft
2002!! Well, it is time to change it a bit after 10 years of loyal service, no?
PS: I've sent a feedback here (https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/693007/wish-zoom-function-for-chm-content)
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Hi,
Thank you for your feedback and suggestion.
Since your suggestion has put to Microsoft feedback website, out development team will receive your feedback and if they have provide the new version of HTML Help Viewer, they will provide the information on Microsoft website.
Thank you for your understanding.
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I dropped by the Microsoft Feedback website to see if there's any advancement in this bug. To my big surprise and disappointment, someone replied that
"However I think Microsoft has made it clear that you don't want people use .CHM as help souurce anymore, so unlikely they'll put effect to add new features to it."
Waoh!! They have a broken technology. They don't care, even though millions and millions of people are still using it. Nice!
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Creating A Table For Attribute Level Delta Imports
We all know that Delta syncs are much faster than full syncs. Creating a basic delta view is pretty easy. I even posted a couple of tools to help with that on my blog:
A Windows Forms app: http://digitalcamel.blogspot.com/2007/12/delta-dawn.html
And a SQL template version: http://digitalcamel.blogspot.com/2007/12/same-but-different.html
The SQL template version is a bit spiffier in that it adds a bit more functionality than the first app.
Both of those methods work towards creating standard delta views. In order to improve on the standard delta sync, we have to move to attribute level deltas. This is where we not only tell ILM which row has changed, but also which attribute in that row. This way, ILM doesn't have to spend any time figuring that out.
This past holiday season, I posted some code that will create attribute level delta tables:
http://digitalcamel.blogspot.com/2007/12/uncovering-miistery-of-attribute-level.html
(All of the links above take you to specific posts on my blog. But, by all means, feel free to browse the other entries.)
In addition to telling ILM that you want delta processing by setting the appropriate properties of the MA, you have to have the external bits in place:
There are three data elements required for delta processing:
Current Data
A table or view that contains the most current state of the data.
Original Data
A table that contains a copy of the data as it was for the last successful sync.
Delta Data
A table or view exposing just the differences between the Original Data and the Current Data.
The basic flow for delta processing is as follows:
1) Pre-Process
Not all data sources require pre-processing, but in many cases, it can speed up imports
by offloading some calculations or data formatting to another process.
2) Full Sync
Perhaps once a week or so, a full sync is a healthy way to make sure that we haven't
missed anything.
3) Post-Process
After a successful sync, we need to copy the Current Data to our Original Data table,
overwriting the existing contents of the Original Data table.
4) Pre-Process
Here we do our standard pre-process as well as create our delta data. If the delta is a
standard delta view, then we don't really have to do anything here. If we are creating an
attribute level delta table, then we run that process now.
5) Delta Sync
6) Post-Process
Upon a successful delta sync, if we are using a delta table, we need to truncate that table
now, along with the standard post-processing. A delta view will automatically be updated.
7) Run items 4, 5 and 6 as often as necessary between full sync cycles.
Once every 15 minutes, once an hour, it will all depend on how often the data changes and
what the SLA requirements are for acting on changes.
In theory, it's all pretty simple. Obviously it gets a bit more complicated as you get into the details of scripting all of the steps and so forth. Hopefully this little bit of information will make someone's life a bit easier.
Jerry Camel
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Hi Jerry
Thanks, this all looks great. None of the links work anymore. Could you provide the scripts?
Thanks again.
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I have a ridiculous middle school crush on Windows 8
I've used Windows 8 on a desktop, a netbook, and as of yesterday, a Samsung Series 7 Slate that I got used off of eBay because I couldn't stand waiting for the next major Surface announcement.
It's just . . . so great, you guys. It works on ANYTHING. This is the first legitimate, professional, completely platform independent OS and it is the best experience I've had on a computer in years. My desktop is still a desktop, my netbook is still a netbook, but the slate? It's running the same OS, it's running all the same programs . . . but it's something that I've never seen before and I am simply blown away.
Microsoft has leapfrogged every single one of their competitors now and this is just the beginning. Well, October 26th is the beginning really. So we're all in it way early! How cool is that?
You know what? I haven't thought about the Start Menu in months.
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I've used Windows 8 on a desktop, a netbook, and as of yesterday, a Samsung Series 7 Slate that I got used off of eBay because I couldn't stand waiting for the next major Surface announcement.
It's just . . . so great, you guys. It works on ANYTHING. This is the first legitimate, professional, completely platform independent OS and it is the best experience I've had on a computer in years. My desktop is still a desktop, my netbook is still a netbook, but the slate? It's running the same OS, it's running all the same programs . . . but it's something that I've never seen before and I am simply blown away.
Microsoft has leapfrogged every single one of their competitors now and this is just the beginning. Well, October 26th is the beginning really. So we're all in it way early! How cool is that?
You know what? I haven't thought about the Start Menu in months.
Ridiculous!
Can you explain, please, what's the meaning of the terms "legitimate", "professional", and "completely platform independent" in your perception?
May be, you are blown away, ain't you.
vjj
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OK, I have to agree, the crush you have on Win8 IS ridiculous.
There are many of us in the computing world who's workload changes between any number of "pidgeon holes" during the course of a day.
We write programs, we manage servers, we design graphics, we write scripts, we process spreadsheets, write user documentation, support end users, train domain admins, edit videos, author DVDs, design powerpoint presentations, and a slew of other tasks that if included in this list would appear to the less productive as "bragging". Well, feel free to interpret the list as complaining, especially if you expect me to use Win8 to accomplish it. Key here is of course multi-tasking.
I have -0- need for Metro. None. Please note that I did NOT say "since I have no need for it, no one else does". What I AM saying is since I have no need for it, it is unconscionable that I have to deal with it in ANY way, no matter how brief that interaction might be. But what the tablet interface users ARE saying is the Start Menu I prefer (as the one single portal to EVERY ELEMENT OF MY OS) isn't really neccessary, there are ways around it! Not only are they insisting I "just deal with it, its the "future" of computing", they are telling me that my way of working is outdated, and the reason I don't like being dropped into Metro is because I'm unwilling to embrace change. How dare you!
I'm fine with you loving, even having wet dreams about Metro, but you choose to denigrate me for preferring not to change the way I work. Metro improves NOTHING for me, yet you'd like to insist it does, if only I adapt. The maddening thing is, I'm willing to let you have "yours" but you are dead set against me having "mine".
I would have embraced Win8 as the logical extension of an obvious growth path MS might need to take, if only they had left the Start Menu in place. Instead of an invisible button (hotspot), I would have been happy if remaining on the Start orb took me to Metro, better yet, have Metro as an obvious choice in that start menu.
But no, now I have to start using the keyboard if I want to get to where I want to go, and/or fill up my desktop taskbar with stuff I really shouldn't HAVE TO put there unless I want to. Let's say something didn'y go as planned, and I need to see the Event Logs. On Win7 I can do so in 6 clicks which happen in something like a second or two. I don't want to dwell on the time or efficiency aspect, I want you to accept that not only is this an acceptable way of doing what I want, but that it represents probably the greatest number of clicks required to get to ANY PART OF MY OS TOOLSET. I expressly do not care if there are workarounds (especially 3rd party tools), I want you to acknowledge that I SHOULD have every right to continue to work the way I want to work, with no further arguement.
The Start Menu doesn't hurt Metro fans in any way, but you seem ready to line up in droves to make sure myself and everyone like me will just have to deal with it. The solution is simple, put the Start Menu back, even better, add a control panel toggle to have it act exactly as it does now, flip the checkbox or radiobutton state, and now it acts exactly the way I want it. Where is the harm. Why can't I have what I want with no arguement, while I stand ready to be happy for you having what you want? Putting the Start Menu back doesn't hurt you, but you seem to think my desire for it indicates a flaw of some sort. Gee, thanks.
After we get our Start Menu back, THEN we can discuss how removing aero and the nicely rounded app windows looks clunky in Win8. Again, this was forced on us all so the OS could be run on those systems exhibiting lackluster performance. It needs to be a choice. If I have the graphics and CPU power to support it, I should be able to turn on the "eye candy". Heck, in my early days of video editing on XP, one of the "tricks" was to tone down the "eye candy (such that it was)" to increase performance. Programmers are smart these days, they should be analyzing the hardware at install (or startup) and set the "eye candy" to a suitable level for the hardware in use, allowing, just as XP did, to turn it all off and go for the flat Win8 look if THE USER SO CHOOSES. I'd even be happy with it defaulting to flat Win8, and me having to tweak it up, but no, that's GONE.
I'm happy many of you are embracing the new look and feel, the most distressing part is you aren't willing to give the rest of us what we want. I love that you would rather use the keyboard to call up apps or systme cmdlets, but you should be embracing the fact that if I want to view the event logs, there is no reason on Earth my hand should have to leave the mouse.
You are throwing other people under the bus by accepting the forced adoption of the Win8 design decisions. I'm willing to acknowledge YOUR needs/desires, why can't you extend me that same courtesy?
I don't have or want a smartphone. I don't have or want a tablet. I don't have any reason to want my computer to act or look like a smartphone OR a tablet, why do you insist I must?
DAS
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The pain goes away after a while, just as they say it will.
The geek in me has enjoyed discovering all the changes.
The Furian in me thinks Microsoft is half in the Underverse.
:D
-Noel
| Detailed how-to in my eBooks: | Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options |
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Noel:
As a long time trench-mate of yours in this Win8 "battle", on one hand I appreciate your "stick-to-itivness" regarding making Win8 "work", on the other, I think it's a bit odd you embraced the 3rd party tool and include it as the very foundation of your new found tenative acceptance of Win8 as "workable".
My "complaint" if you can call it that is many of us don't have the option of working in an environment of our own creation. Yes, I could "play along" and have Win8 on all of my home machines, but my forest is 80,000+ machines, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms a third party solution is not only NOT a solution, but something I might actually be chastized/reprimanded/castigated/fired? for, were I to install it on any of my domain machines.
So while you've moderated your former passionate position on Win8 as being a threat to desktop/power use, I don't think it's "fair" to include the 3rd party tool as part of that formula unless you make regular reference to the fact that you have the luxury of working in an environment of your own design.
Ergo, the "rest" of us are still as "screwed, blued, and tatooed" as we were back on day one of the DP release.
DAS
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You make a valid point. But I'll counter with this: ClassicShell is open source software. You can evaluate it thoroughly for security concerns, and you'll easily be able to make a case for including it in your domain: Make sure you update the boss' system first to Windows 8. Then show him/her ClassicShell. You won't have any problems thereafter.
-Noel
| Detailed how-to in my eBooks: | Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options |
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Windows 8 is just great with initial default configuration. There's no need to "configure" it so you can be productive. The start screen is not something that should be avoided. It has a role (job) and it does it well. You use it to start applications. If you don't like the start screen then feel free to install any 3rd party applications you want to get any features you feel are missing.
Most of you guys that are against Metro don't get it. You don't understand that I can use the start screen on any device with many different inputs. Just watching the release of the Office preview and you can see what I'm talking about. When he uses the huge touch screen monitor you should get it. Anything from small to super large screen can use this UI because it scales with the device. You're not stuck in some hierarchy of flying menus. Anyone who's trying to use that on small screens or touch screens know that it just sucks. Not only that but it works beautifully with mouse and keyboard. Basically they nailed it. The perfect UI for starting applications on all screens.
Back on point. Windows 8 is awesome. I'm a fan but I'm not sure I would go so far as to say I have a crush but it's totally understandable for people to thoroughly enjoy Windows 8 and look forward to it's release.
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In the Classic Shell Start Menu, you can set the sub-menu items to any icons size you want depending on your resolution and screen size from tiny 16 x 16 to 256 x 256. Also, we understand that the usability of menus which expand and close by hovering the mouse pointer has been criticized by many usability experts for being inefficient. So Classic Shell addresses this with a simple solution. If you find it difficult to navigate flyout sub-menus expanding horizontally because of the menu is closing as soon as the mouse pointer crosses its boundary, you can set the "Menu Delay" setting to a higher value. This causes the sub-menu to not close immediately. In fact, if you set it to a very high value, the sub-menu will expand and close only by a mouse click, not by hovering. Problem solved. This eliminates the main criticism of flyout menus - that they will close if your mouse moves out of the target menu. If you increase the "Menu delay" to very high value, it will open and close only by mouse click, exactly like the Windows 7 Start menu behaves but utilize the full screen with multiple columns if you want to show all programs meaning less scrolling. Plus, unlike the Start screen Tiles which are oversized for mouse and keyboard usage, the icons by default are not oversized so again less scrolling and more programs fit on the screen. Plus it's neatly organized into folders, unlike one endlessly scrolling mess of all program shortcuts clubbed together in one flat view.Anything from small to super large screen can use this UI because it scales with the device. You're not stuck in some hierarchy of flying menus. Anyone who's trying to use that on small screens or touch screens know that it just sucks.
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Understanding Windows is like understanding women.
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Windows 8 is just great with initial default configuration. There's no need to "configure" it so you can be productive. The start screen is not something that should be avoided. It has a role (job) and it does it well. You use it to start applications. If you don't like the start screen then feel free to install any 3rd party applications you want to get any features you feel are missing.
Most of you guys that are against Metro don't get it. You don't understand that I can use the start screen on any device with many different inputs. Just watching the release of the Office preview and you can see what I'm talking about. When he uses the huge touch screen monitor you should get it. Anything from small to super large screen can use this UI because it scales with the device. You're not stuck in some hierarchy of flying menus. Anyone who's trying to use that on small screens or touch screens know that it just sucks. Not only that but it works beautifully with mouse and keyboard. Basically they nailed it. The perfect UI for starting applications on all screens.
Back on point. Windows 8 is awesome. I'm a fan but I'm not sure I would go so far as to say I have a crush but it's totally understandable for people to thoroughly enjoy Windows 8 and look forward to it's release.
I know that you are an Win8 fanboy and I am asking for trouble, but please tell me how the Start Screen is at all useful on a desktop with a 21-30'' inch monitor where all input is by the keyboard or mouse.
I am waiting
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Hi ADRz,
just to cheer you up amidst all this "Win32 demise", "touchscreen vs. keyboard and mouse": Why don't you acknowledge the fact that all recent hardware innovations from Microsoft (Surface, Wedge, Sculpt, new designed Touch mouse) obviously are directed to "reinvent" computer usage? The questionable decision to create a 1-fits-for-all OS at least leads to the promotion of hardware changes which are required to fulfill the promise of covering all customers' needs. Metro alone can't do that. From one point, this looks silly because no one who is satisfied with his current megapower pc/laptop will see a reason to downgrade to a system which clearly benefits ultra-mobile users more than himself. From another point, you could quite reasonably argue that MS is trying to catch the ultra-mobile users back to the traditional PC lines. Tablets - yes, but with added keyboards, touchscreens - yes, but with new mice features like gesturing on the ... mmm, thing that replaces the mouse wheel. One thing is for sure: MS fanboys will welcome all that's presented to them, Metro haters will do the opposite, MS as a company is much more open-minded - it looks at market shares that are not conquered yet, and if that includes a bit of contradicting themselves, they won't hesitate to do so. Look at my previous post: First all this fuss about Start button or not, and then "reimagining" it via new hardware - ridiculous but maybe effective.
Understanding Windows is like understanding women.
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I know that you are an Win8 fanboy and I am asking for trouble, but please tell me how the Start Screen is at all useful on a desktop with a 21-30'' inch monitor where all input is by the keyboard or mouse.
I am waiting
I use a 37" monitor for my daily development. Never once I have thought hum I wish I could touch my monitor to click that tile. I simple move my mouse over the tile and click it. Scrolling to see other applications isn't hard either. Just scroll and click the other icon that was off the screen.
Oh and searching is just as easy to. Simply launch the start screen (winkey or start button) and start typing. The start screen is very easy to use.
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Hi ADRz,
just to cheer you up amidst all this "Win32 demise", "touchscreen vs. keyboard and mouse": Why don't you acknowledge the fact that all recent hardware innovations from Microsoft (Surface, Wedge, Sculpt, new designed Touch mouse) obviously are directed to "reinvent" computer usage? The questionable decision to create a 1-fits-for-all OS at least leads to the promotion of hardware changes which are required to fulfill the promise of covering all customers' needs. Metro alone can't do that. From one point, this looks silly because no one who is satisfied with his current megapower pc/laptop will see a reason to downgrade to a system which clearly benefits ultra-mobile users more than himself. From another point, you could quite reasonably argue that MS is trying to catch the ultra-mobile users back to the traditional PC lines. Tablets - yes, but with added keyboards, touchscreens - yes, but with new mice features like gesturing on the ... mmm, thing that replaces the mouse wheel. One thing is for sure: MS fanboys will welcome all that's presented to them, Metro haters will do the opposite, MS as a company is much more open-minded - it looks at market shares that are not conquered yet, and if that includes a bit of contradicting themselves, they won't hesitate to do so. Look at my previous post: First all this fuss about Start button or not, and then "reimagining" it via new hardware - ridiculous but maybe effective.
Understanding Windows is like understanding women.
Your "win32" demise does not translate into all applications being Metro. They will always be a need for non Metro (desktop) apps and that is not lost on Microsoft. Metro apps provided both Microsoft and the consumer (both business and personal) with many benefits. A dedicated store to sell and deliver your applications. This benefits both the user and ISV.
Desktop applications are more precision (mouse) based application like Photoshop, Visual Studio, Office, etc. These will always exists. I predict there will be a day when Microsoft allow the WinRT API to be used in desktop applications. They are currently not allowing it as to guide developers into create Metro applications. It allows Microsoft to vet the WinRT API before release it to the desktop.
The Windows environment will change and continue to grow. You may not like it but this is life. I think they are headed in the correct direction and are finally making progress. I've been a fan of Microsoft for years and to finally see Microsoft innovating instead of chasing someone else is nice for a change.
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Round and round we go...
Did anyone here stop to think that not everyone has to like the same things?
There are different people who buy each of these, and each believes they've made the best decision. And that the other is nuts.
-Noel
| Detailed how-to in my eBooks: | Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options |
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Hi ADRz,
just to cheer you up amidst all this "Win32 demise", "touchscreen vs. keyboard and mouse": Why don't you acknowledge the fact that all recent hardware innovations from Microsoft (Surface, Wedge, Sculpt, new designed Touch mouse) obviously are directed to "reinvent" computer usage? The questionable decision to create a 1-fits-for-all OS at least leads to the promotion of hardware changes which are required to fulfill the promise of covering all customers' needs. Metro alone can't do that. From one point, this looks silly because no one who is satisfied with his current megapower pc/laptop will see a reason to downgrade to a system which clearly benefits ultra-mobile users more than himself. From another point, you could quite reasonably argue that MS is trying to catch the ultra-mobile users back to the traditional PC lines. Tablets - yes, but with added keyboards, touchscreens - yes, but with new mice features like gesturing on the ... mmm, thing that replaces the mouse wheel. One thing is for sure: MS fanboys will welcome all that's presented to them, Metro haters will do the opposite, MS as a company is much more open-minded - it looks at market shares that are not conquered yet, and if that includes a bit of contradicting themselves, they won't hesitate to do so. Look at my previous post: First all this fuss about Start button or not, and then "reimagining" it via new hardware - ridiculous but maybe effective.
Understanding Windows is like understanding women.
Ok, let's all admit to the utter ridiculousness of developing an OS that covers the whole computing experience, from a 7'' inch (potentially) tablet to a 30''-inch monitor, 8-core desktop (or even more powerful machines). While Win8 may have the appropriate interface for a tablet (questionable, but let's go with it), it is preposterous for anybody to even defend the notion that such a UI is even nearly acceptable in a desktop/laptop where every every pixel is addressable by a keyboard and a mouse. If this was not the reality of what Microsoft has developed and if somebody had mentioned this to me in passing, I am sure that it would have induced a hearty laugh.
But if it all was for the ridiculous and aesthetically challenged UI (and Metro wears thin very quickly), I would not have been bothered that much. But it is not. Microsoft is simply orphaning all previous version of Windows because it is cancelling (discouraging, attacking, cajoling...pick your word) any further development for Win32. No, Microsoft is not just content in hoisting a silly UI on the unsuspecting users, it is essentially gutting Windows to replace it with a portable OS that runs applications full screen and does not even do any real multitasking. Graciously, Microsoft included a desktop mode for "legacy support" (Sinofski's own words) for the fools that want to purchase Win8 and continue using their Windows products. But, just wait. As soon as Windows 8 gets released, Microsoft would blitz everybody and everything to convince developers to be developing only for WinRT in the future (Sinofski said that it does not make any more sense to develop for Win32....in his own blog).
So, let's be clear here. If you buy Windows 8 (and unfortunately, I have, through my subscription) you are enabling this (Sinofski's and Ballmer's) vision of Windows. I know that some of us are just "reactionaries" and "do not want to go with change" which in this case means replacing a top-shelf desktop/laptop operating system with one that has fewer capabilities than Android 4.1 (Android 4.1 does full multitasking, I will have you know). It is utterly ridiculous. I know that Noel says thinks that the Win8 desktop is just "good enough"...but it is not. It lacks a lot of capabilities (discussed in other threads). This desktop mode is "bone" that Microsoft has thrown to keep the current user base "chewing" until the gazillions (sic) of consumers come in to buy these shiny new tablets (which, in my mind, would be abysmal failures). After that, they would flush the toilet with all of us (assuming that the gazillions of consumers show up)!! This is the plan and you can read Sinofski's own statements if you do not believe me. Microsoft has not been shy in communicating this message.
Microsoft had two choices: (a) to continue developing an enterprise/productivity OS and become an essential player in the world enterprise; (b)or to become a player in consumer electronics, very much as Apple is (but mainly in software). Somehow, somewhere, Microsoft divined that it could not do both of these at the same time. It could not offer a portable OS and also a separate, more capable desktop OS (something that Apple and Linux do not seem to have any difficulty doing). I think that the abject failure of Windows Phone 7 was definitive here. But Microsoft learned the wrong lesson from WinPhone 7. With WinMobile 6.x, Microsoft had approximately 30% of the market. It orphaned WinMo 6.x and within a couple of years, its market share was 2%!!!! Microsoft concluded that nobody was going to buy an MS portable OS on its own!!!! The only way forward for these idiots was to bolt this portable OS to Windows! Somehow, it never occurred to Microsoft honchos that pairing a very closed OS with mediocre hardware and throwing a large user base under the bus was a problem!!! What these idiots did was to transform Win8 into a portable OS, orphan WinPhone 7, orphan Win32 (Win7, Vista, XP etc..)...and this passes as Microsoft strategy and the direction for the future.
I am sure that solutions would eventually emerge and Win32 clones will appear. Microsoft would eventually become just another portable OS vendor, selling little meaningless apps in Windows Marketplace....but this future remains to unfold.
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Ok, let's all admit to the utter ridiculousness of developing an OS that covers the whole computing experience, from a 7'' inch (potentially) tablet to a 30''-inch monitor, 8-core desktop (or even more powerful machines). While Win8 may have the appropriate interface for a tablet (questionable, but let's go with it), it is preposterous for anybody to even defend the notion that such a UI is even nearly acceptable in a desktop/laptop where every every pixel is addressable by a keyboard and a mouse. If this was not the reality of what Microsoft has developed and if somebody had mentioned this to me in passing, I am sure that it would have induced a hearty laugh.
But if it all was for the ridiculous and aesthetically challenged UI (and Metro wears thin very quickly), I would not have been bothered that much. But it is not. Microsoft is simply orphaning all previous version of Windows because it is cancelling (discouraging, attacking, cajoling...pick your word) any further development for Win32. No, Microsoft is not just content in hoisting a silly UI on the unsuspecting users, it is essentially gutting Windows to replace it with a portable OS that runs applications full screen and does not even do any real multitasking. Graciously, Microsoft included a desktop mode for "legacy support" (Sinofski's own words) for the fools that want to purchase Win8 and continue using their Windows products. But, just wait. As soon as Windows 8 gets released, Microsoft would blitz everybody and everything to convince developers to be developing only for WinRT in the future (Sinofski said that it does not make any more sense to develop for Win32....in his own blog).
So, let's be clear here. If you buy Windows 8 (and unfortunately, I have, through my subscription) you are enabling this (Sinofski's and Ballmer's) vision of Windows. I know that some of us are just "reactionaries" and "do not want to go with change" which in this case means replacing a top-shelf desktop/laptop operating system with one that has fewer capabilities than Android 4.1 (Android 4.1 does full multitasking, I will have you know). It is utterly ridiculous. I know that Noel says thinks that the Win8 desktop is just "good enough"...but it is not. It lacks a lot of capabilities (discussed in other threads). This desktop mode is "bone" that Microsoft has thrown to keep the current user base "chewing" until the gazillions (sic) of consumers come in to buy these shiny new tablets (which, in my mind, would be abysmal failures). After that, they would flush the toilet with all of us (assuming that the gazillions of consumers show up)!! This is the plan and you can read Sinofski's own statements if you do not believe me. Microsoft has not been shy in communicating this message.
Microsoft had two choices: (a) to continue developing an enterprise/productivity OS and become an essential player in the world enterprise; (b)or to become a player in consumer electronics, very much as Apple is (but mainly in software). Somehow, somewhere, Microsoft divined that it could not do both of these at the same time. It could not offer a portable OS and also a separate, more capable desktop OS (something that Apple and Linux do not seem to have any difficulty doing). I think that the abject failure of Windows Phone 7 was definitive here. But Microsoft learned the wrong lesson from WinPhone 7. With WinMobile 6.x, Microsoft had approximately 30% of the market. It orphaned WinMo 6.x and within a couple of years, its market share was 2%!!!! Microsoft concluded that nobody was going to buy an MS portable OS on its own!!!! The only way forward for these idiots was to bolt this portable OS to Windows! Somehow, it never occurred to Microsoft honchos that pairing a very closed OS with mediocre hardware and throwing a large user base under the bus was a problem!!! What these idiots did was to transform Win8 into a portable OS, orphan WinPhone 7, orphan Win32 (Win7, Vista, XP etc..)...and this passes as Microsoft strategy and the direction for the future.
I am sure that solutions would eventually emerge and Win32 clones will appear. Microsoft would eventually become just another portable OS vendor, selling little meaningless apps in Windows Marketplace....but this future remains to unfold.
I would never write my post like this but just for ADRz I'm going to. This is for all for you ADRz!
OK, let's all admit that creating a OS that covers all device with one standard UI is genius and we'll give Microsoft props for doing so. The fact that I can use my tablet, phone, laptop and PC will all the standard W8 interfaces rocks. Anyone that would think otherwise should be admitted for help because they are crazy!
The development of Metro and the Microsoft store is the perfect combination. It allows developers to create applications, submit them and receive checks from Microsoft. No setting up servers for deployment, no creating installers, no tech support in how to install the app, and the best part in that I don't have to setup secure payment servers to take payments (credit card, checks, cash, etc).
Not only that but Microsoft continue to support and develop for the desktop (aka Win32). If you are a developer of more advanced application you can continue to do so because you have the support of Microsoft. Not only will they continue to support Win32 but I predict that the WinRT API will eventually be release to allow you to use the API in desktop (non Metro) applications.
Everyone should go out and purchase Windows 8 because it's the best version of Windows to date! You can install it on all your devices and they will perform better than they have ever have. Not only that but they will run all your favorite application on your tablet, laptop and / or PC. There no other platform on the market right now that can offer you this.This is what Microsoft has been needing to show off the beauty and power of the Windows Phone 7.
The future of Windows 8 is the going to be amazing and I personally cannot wait for the world to get their hands on the final product. I cannot wait until I can get my hands on the MSDN version.
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Well, you know what they say...it takes all kinds!!!
The future of Windows 8 is the going to be amazing and I personally cannot wait for the world to get their hands on the final product. I cannot wait until I can get my hands on the MSDN version.
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Ain't that the truth, Mr. doom and gloomy. :)
The future of Windows 8 is the going to be amazing and I personally cannot wait for the world to get their hands on the final product. I cannot wait until I can get my hands on the MSDN version.
Well, you know what they say...it takes all kinds!!!
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The fact that I can use my tablet, phone, laptop and PC will all the standard W8 interfaces rocks.
ridiculous, childish
I predict that the WinRT API will eventually be release to allow you to use the API in desktop (non Metro) applications.
total ignorance of WinRT principles from someone who calls himself a "developer".
There is a full featured .NET with WPF for desktop, already.
This is what Microsoft has been needing to show off the beauty and power of the Windows Phone 7.
This WP7 "beauty" and "power" caused that nobody wants WP7, cf. market trends.
vjj
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SQL Server CLR Integration
HI,
I am just trying to integrate a sample application in c# to SQL Server using CLR. It seems like much of the time is being spend on the data transfer between fillrow method in c# to TVF in SQL Server. Is there any way to optimize this streaming of data?
Thanks
Hyper-V Cluster: losing conectivity to CSV when copy exported VMs to the CSV Volume
Hello there,
we have a new two Node 2008 R2 Hyper-V Cluster. All works fine, creating virtual machines, live migration etc. so I start importing some test virtual machines from a non clustered Host.
To do that I first assigned a LUN to the non clustered host and exported the VMs to this LUN, then assgined the LUN to the Hyper-V Cluster Group and activated it on the coordinator node of the target CSV Volume. Then I used the coordinator node to copy the exported VMs to the CSV Volume. I double checked that the node I used is the coordinator of the CSV Volume where I want to copy the exported VMs.
For littel VHDs (5-10GB) it works fine, but for larger (50GB) im losing the connectivity to the CSV after it copied about 50%, furthermore I noticed, that the ram was filling to about ~50% of its RAM (26gb, normal is 6gb).
On the node I get the following Event Logs:
ID 4096: The Virtual Machines configuration 8B6D05EF-FE41-443C-8A53-DD89934B36B1 at 'C:\ClusterStorage\CSV-VirtualMachines-3\vms\admin' is no longer accessible: The device is not ready. (0x80070015)
ID 16400: 'remoteapp' cannot access the data folder of the virtual machine. The worker process (Process ID The device is not ready.) may not be functional anymore. (Virtual machine ID 3ACC3B1F-E690-4962-AC50-2DBB4D43E322)
ID 1069: Cluster resource 'CSV-VirtualMachines-1' in clustered service or application 'ce054638-7967-4cc8-9030-44b1202f9104' failed.
Our hardware is: Blade BL460C G6 in a Virtual Connect Environment, we are using an EMC VNX 5300 Block storage (directly attached, iSCSI with MPIO)
Thanks in advice
Malte
- Edited by MalteS Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:39 AM
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- Edited by MalteS Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:53 PM
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Hi,
I.ve have the same problem, what mean "Problem solved:I forgot to enable the cache on the store" ?
Can you support me to solve this problem?
Thanks
Leo
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Tutorials for Forefront endpoint protection 2010
Hi,
Can any one share me the link to download forefront endpoint protection 2010 video tutorial.
required to share with the team to understand the feature & technology available and this will help the team to support the product.
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Hi,
I think one of the best resources för this kind of information is Teched Online, there are 3 session recordings around FEP 2010, they can be found here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/NorthAmerica/2011?sort=sequential&direction=desc&term=endpoint
-- My System Center blog ccmexec.com -- Twitter @ccmexec
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